noone Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, newfoundmass said: I'm not sure how popular this will end up being. Maybe more than most would think. Maybe not to so many buyers but I see some buyers getting quite a few. Six or so of these would be like buying a car to many businesses, just the right tool for the job for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Pretty cool. Though no internal ND's, sucky Vlog L, old sensor (gh5s sensor?) I am very happy with my Z-cam S6, zcam color is so much better than Panasonic IMO. ZLOG > VLOG-L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Confusing, overpriced product. It’s clear L-Mount is the focus for traditional image capture at Panasonic now. Geoff CB and Mark Romero 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 It's a bit confusing. If this had internal NDs and 120fps in 4k, that would make it tempting to just always have on hand for action/gimbal shots. But, definitely seems to be targeting a specific market for higher-end webcam and live recordings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Confusing? Please stop. This introduction is actually remarkable... I never discuss what some other people want. Don't neglect what you don't need. Enthusiastic product tester here... who knows probably adopter? ; ) I am looking this product since a decade ago at least... 3x GH1, 4X G7... does this say something to you? BenEricson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 AF seem quite bit better than S5/GH5S for sure! IronFilm and Emanuel 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 What good news! Really excited about : ) Best Panny AF performance ever to my eyes... WOW Need to check not under direct/key light now :- ) Wondering how AF will match or not under low light... John Matthews, ntblowz and Juank 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The AF will suck if its not phase detect. Mark Romero 2 and John Matthews 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 This camera isn't meant for most people here. Yes, it can be used for a lot of our work but the work flow is obviously not geared towards it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I don't know what all the negativity is about, this looks pretty good to me. Worse specs than a Z Cam E2, but you gain Panasonic Brand (brands aren't my thing but brands are worth real money), SDI, timecode without an annoying adapter, and you can use that XLR module if you want. Plus it takes SD cards instead of CFast. If Z Cam didn't exist I'd get this for sure. IronFilm and aaa123jc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jermaine Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 every reviewer keeps saying you can use this with a drone but nobody ever mentions what drone works with it so can someone here list the type of drones that work with it please? are there any cheaper drone options for this cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, Jermaine said: every reviewer keeps saying you can use this with a drone but nobody ever mentions what drone works with it so can someone here list the type of drones that work with it please? are there any cheaper drone options for this cam? There aren't really any cheaper options... The DJI Inspire 2 w/o gimbal and camera is $2600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, Jermaine said: every reviewer keeps saying you can use this with a drone but nobody ever mentions what drone works with it so can someone here list the type of drones that work with it please? are there any cheaper drone options for this cam? Actually I don't think you can use this with the Inspire 2, you're probably looking at one of the Matrice drones. Which are like $5600 without gimbal and camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Kelly Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I don't think the BGH-1 is intended for the GH5 crowd. This camera has multi-site corporate, and small market broadcast potential beyond anything else on the current market. Z-cam had that potential as well, but the US computer chip embargo on China may cause problems for Z-cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhaltiner Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 A new "tweaked" Vlog L claiming 13 stops and internal 10bit 60fps. Fingers crossed these features make their way to the GH5s in a future firmware update. I mean it's possible, right..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Seems to me it’s the sensor and codec that is the issue. If this had a pocket 6k sensor (yes with the m4/3 mount) and BRAW it would be a best seller. People know what they want and will purchase without hesitation when the right product is available. tweak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 3:38 AM, Tim Sewell said: 1. Too expensive. It's around the same price as the GH5S, yet has no screen, no evf, no battery and - presumably - no strap or charger. So WTF, Panasonic - should be cheaper, if anything? Yes the price difference is small currently, but the BGH1 is $500 cheaper with its release price than the release price originally of the GH5S. On 10/14/2020 at 3:38 AM, Tim Sewell said: 2. The reason we always get for the lack of internal NDs in hybrid cameras is a lack of space. No NDs in this - why? Yes, if you're removing the mechanical shutter than you should replace it with NDs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 5:50 AM, noone said: I am kind of bemused why they did not use the regular GH5 sensor instead in a modular camera though I guess this one is just better for the specs they wanted in it. Or maybe they over purchased on GH5s sensors and this will get a few more sold than otherwise? Because the GH5S sensor is "better" than the CH5 sensor. noone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Brilliant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveV4D Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Brilliant: I'm warming to this camera. I wish it had internal ND and even just a small screen. Yet I can see it working in my selection of cameras and would mean my MFT lenses would still have some relevance in the future. If price drops a bit next year, that would be a bonus. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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