Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 3, 2014 Administrators Share Posted February 3, 2014 This chart is an overall look at the whole spectrum of video and cinema cameras from the Arri Alexa right down to the Fuji X series of stills cameras.Read the full article here odie and chiumeister 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bannister Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Not a major player but I'd like to see where the Kineraw mini is placed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiumeister Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Where would the Sony PMW-EX1R, EX3 and the upcoming Sony FDR-AX100 rank? How about the Blackmagic 4K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 89e2bdf5797fbbdc17c2cc6da1413fa0 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'd be interested to know where you'd place the GX7 (is it the same as the GM1 for video?). Plus the G6 is an improvement on the GH2 in some ways (better shadows, better colours(?)). I'd like to see 'League 2' reshuffled for each major attribute: e.g. one list for resolution (GH3 at the top?); one for low-light (GM1/5D3/D5300?); one for dynamic range (D5300?). Perhaps this is something we could do here on the forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereami Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Sorry not to see Panasonic G6 on the list. Considering the price/performance I would have thought it would be one of the best cameras for a lot of people to get so far if not needing broadcast quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurth Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 ...and the hacked gh1 , which kinda of started it off ? Still shoots fine video at reasonable iso's, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 3, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted February 3, 2014 G6 I forgot. It would come in between the GH2 and GM1. I'll add it to the March chart. Hacked GH1 would come in around the 5D Mark II level. Smaller sensor but the cleaner image makes up for it. Maybe better to have leagues of 10 next time too. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zetabrog Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I would like to know how you would compare canon c100 vs sony fs100 both with internal and external recording options. as they are both great s35 camcorders with audio features and their own weaknesses (no nd's for the fs and no slo-mo for the c100). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tungah Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Nice chart! Very useful. Just to clarify, is the Canon 7D (H.264) and 60D included on the "70D and Rebels" place too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtinMinorKey Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm surprised you put the 5D3 h264 above the GH3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tungah Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm surprised you put the 5D3 h264 above the GH3. Yes, me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino215 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Not sure if I'm interpreting this post correctly but you can slice and dice this list up a 100 ways depending on the particular job. For instance you have the 5d higher than an F3 with slog. On a doc job, under various scenarios I feel you'll get a better image out of the f3 than the 5d. A more controlled situation you maybe right. Plus (with the odyssey) I like the fs700 over the red one MX any day. 240 fps 2k RAW, 4k compressed (soon). 12 bit 444 1080 off the 4k signal. Ive seen it and it lokks like a differnt camera, great image. For narrative, commercial it's a different story, maybe you should've put a 35mm film camera before the Alexa if only image quality was your focus? I enjoyed the read but think choosing the right camera for a job boils down to more than just the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Surprised as well for 5DIII h264 > GH3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkadasim Ciftcibir Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I believe that GH4 will beat them up. GM1 is only a forerunner of GH4. Fingers crossed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Not sure if I'm interpreting this post correctly but you can slice and dice this list up a 100 ways depending on the particular job. For instance you have the 5d higher than an F3 with slog. On a doc job, under various scenarios I feel you'll get a better image out of the f3 than the 5d. A more controlled situation you maybe right. Plus (with the odyssey) I like the fs700 over the red one MX any day. 240 fps 2k RAW, 4k compressed (soon). 12 bit 444 1080 off the 4k signal. Ive seen it and it lokks like a differnt camera, great image. For narrative, commercial it's a different story, maybe you should've put a 35mm film camera before the Alexa if only image quality was your focus? I enjoyed the read but think choosing the right camera for a job boils down to more than just the image. It doesn't matter as no-one is beholden to the list. I think it just puts things in the correct ball park. Useful for beginners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvideographer747 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 How about the Sony NEX-VG20? Is it too bad to even be considered ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak_heri Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I would like to see where gopro is (it's used in many productions). Also isn't Red Monochrome a hyper-specialized tool? Like the high-speed Phantom camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 3, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted February 3, 2014 Surprised as well for 5DIII h264 > GH3 These was one of the most subjective areas of the chart. I like the full frame look, low light and lack of moire of the 5D Mark III in stock video mode, even though I hardly ever shoot that way because of the Magic Lantern raw revolution. But the GH3 resolves more detail and has the better video-related features and ergonomics. Yes the 5D Mark III was a disappointment when it came out - it could have been even better had Canon given us more video features and more resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 3, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted February 3, 2014 How about the Sony NEX-VG20? Is it too bad to even be considered ? Pretty much a NEX 5N with a worse form factor for a lot more money, so I've never used one, therefore I wouldn't know where to place it on the chart. Pretty close to the bottom I'd say. maxotics and Arturo Chu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 3, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted February 3, 2014 Not sure if I'm interpreting this post correctly but you can slice and dice this list up a 100 ways depending on the particular job. Yeah of course you can. Now good luck making 100 charts to go with it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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