Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 7, 2014 Administrators Share Posted February 7, 2014 Based on a pre-production model Since the GH1 I have been shooting with Panasonic's mirrorless system for video. Without this series of affordable cameras my early work as a cinematographer and filmmaker simply wouldn't be the same. The GH4 marks a much needed major leap for the line, the first to shoot 4K to an efficient internal codec AND output 10bit 4:2:2 1080p over HDMI to an affordable external recorder like the Atomos Ninja! On a visit to Panasonic I got to see the camera, see 4K sample footage and give my feedback. Here's an account of what I saw...Read the full article here KarimNassar, nahua, Zach Ashcraft and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenogears Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Great coverage! What release date Panasonic is thinking? For what is for those hole in front of the adaptor? some sort of rods for MatteBox and Follow Focus? Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I hope the in camera 1080p footage also sees a drastic leap in quality, as your write-up seems to imply it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzNimbus Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 My question is: how many stops of dynamic range in the 10 bit 4:2:2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgtwo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Any idea how it compares to: a) Blackmagic and b ) C100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiL0 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Does the sensor get cropped in 2k mode as well? If not, 2k seems like it'd be a better option over 1080 and 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This is a pretty amazing looking camera, and even if I were still doing purely stills, I'd still consider it. 1/8000s shutter with 1/250 flash sync, and hopefully a better EVF are all solid upgrades. The increase in burst shooting and the new defocus AF thing look interesting as well. I might get it regardless. I just hope I can afford it! On using a video stream as a way to get stills: Not until they have the software to help with sorting 30000 photos. There needs to be some way to streamline and automate this process. First company to get it right will kick off a new style of shooting stills. Unlike your suggestion of stills vs video, I don't think Panasonic should split the line. I want a camera that is capable of both stills and videos - that's why I bought the GH3! What Panasonic should do instead, is to *market* it better. Highlight the stills improvements strongly in stills oriented sites, and video in the video sites. Granted, with the GH4, it might not be so easy, since 80% of the engineering went towards improving the video side, but Panasonic can do a better job, me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_d Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I really hope this camera takes off and is adopted by the masses (ie; indy filmmakers, schools, bloggers, news people)! I can totally see this being my next purchase! That xlr makes this a really nice package! I'm glad I mostly shoot on a monopod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanpoiuyt Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Nice little demo - watch on youtube and crank up the resolution Michiel78, Axel, nahua and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If this camera had an Olympus' IBIS, it would be the ULTIMATE run and gun video camera - 4K, this new 1080p codec, VFR, etc! I have a question, one of the advantages of shooting in 4K is not only the better resolution but it solves the image better due to less pixel binning, which also increases DR, etc. So theoretically - and considering the new codecs - which one should have better IQ and will the difference be any significant? A straight out of the camera 1080p or a 1080p render from the 4K footage or a1080p 10-bit 4:2:2 ProRes via HDMI out? And I also wanted to add a cropped 1080p from the 4K footage as well. Considering this new codec I wonder if the difference will be significant enough to choose the other alternatives. Also, the 4K gets a bit cropped but is that also true for the 1080p output? If not, the 4K image will look different from the 1080p straight out of the camera when compared side to side, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Does the sensor get cropped in 2k mode as well? If not, 2k seems like it'd be a better option over 1080 and 4k. Looking at the formats for video, it doesn't look like it will have 2K and the difference between 2K and 1080p is very marginal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfilmz Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Nice little demo This is amazing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Neat-o. As I say, great time to be in the imaging game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yesterday I bought an Olympus M1!! Somebody please tell me why I shouldn't be really annoyed with myself right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazdar Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 1. So what's the price of that YAGH brick dock? 2. Can you record 10bit 4:2:2 4K internally on SD card without SDI dock? And 10bit 4:2:2 in HD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanpoiuyt Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 This is amazing... ...and the making of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Shasha Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Andrew First, thanks for taking the time to write this article! Much appreciated! I've been thinking, is it possible to get those 96FPS in 10bit? In your article, you pointed out that the 96FPS is conformed to either 24P, 25P, or 29.97P. Now, a lot of external recorders, when recording 10bit ProRes of DNxHD, max-out at 24, 25, 29.97, 30FPS - the Odyssey 7/7Q can go up to 60FPS when recording 10bit 1080P. I was thinking, since the GH4 conforms the 96FPS to either 24P, 25P, or 29.97P, shouldn't it, theoretically, be possible to get those 96FPS in 10bit to an external recorder - since those 96FPS are conformed to a lower frame-rate that the external recorders can actually handle? What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurgen Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Yesterday I bought an Olympus M1!! Somebody please tell me why I shouldn't be really annoyed with myself right now. Because you have a great camera, one perfectly capable of capturing beautiful images? One that actually exists right now? Don't be too torn up about this - you're looking at probably a $4000 package with the base brick, plus more on top for all your cords and cabling. And if, down the road, you want to make the switch, you're in luck - these MFT bodies actually hold their value reasonably well (especially the Olympus ones). In the meantime, don't stress! You still have a highly capable shooter. There will always be new gear! Orangenz, Michiel78 and Hitfabryk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiumeister Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 first the Sony FDR-AX100, now the GH4. Looking like a great 2014 for 4K. My Sony XBR65X900A set will be very busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 1. So what's the price of that YAGH brick dock? 2. Can you record 10bit 4:2:2 4K internally on SD card without SDI dock? And 10bit 4:2:2 in HD? Did you really read the article? The answers are all there. Xiong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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