Emanuel Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Still looking for that FF 4K 120fps output and wondering about. Here's a curious comparison test: Your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Well for me id rather have more dynamic range and lowlight so its Sony. Snowfun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 This Sony, is THE Sony A7 camera, best ever and with a wide margin, in my opinion. I am too invested in EF though, so maybe not an option for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 For pure stills, the R5. For pure video, the Sony. For hybrid, could go either way depending on your picture requirements. Would be my opinion. Video Hummus and Juank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 hours ago, MrSMW said: For pure stills, the R5. For pure video, the Sony. For hybrid, could go either way depending on your picture requirements. Would be my opinion. Sony all the way if it wasn't for the damn noise reduction. I'd probably still buy Sony over Canon as I am not going to deal with record limits or artificial overheating limits. Detail is an issue though. If you really want to punch in a lot the R5 will be way better. Again though its the damn cripple hammer. How about the Panasonic S1/S5/S1H/S1R instead PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Neither ntblowz, MrSMW and PannySVHS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Yep what he said IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 For cinema quality S1 with update or S1H with that tasty OPLF. No mudd but fine grain at higher isos. Massive latitude for underexposure, which is best in class, much better at underexposure than Pocket6K with Braw. Sony makes images muddy at higher isos. Rolling shutter is awesome though. For a video camera and as a hybrid or even cinema camera the S series impresses. A 1900 usd Lumix S5 blows a C300II out of the water imagewise, it is not even fair to put them in the same contest. Was grading underexposed C300ii 10bit material in UDH and Cine 4K the last week, UHD looking like mushy HD with temporal noise reduction, C4K with big pixel blocks in the shadows. Colours kept impressively intact though, I must admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 21 hours ago, IronFilm said: Neither OK funny David, find me then another one supplying 4K 120fps for same price range and form factor... Ah and full frame, s'il vous plait ; ) LOL :- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Emanuel said: OK funny David, find me then another one supplying 4K 120fps for same price range and form factor... Ah and full frame, s'il vous plait ; ) LOL :- ) Full frame is overrated. As for 4K 120fps.... Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Yes, it is, as well, slowmo shots but not if you know where and when to use them, a bit like aerial stuff ;- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 What other mobile acquisition can give you this? omega1978 and greenscreen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Emanuel said: What other mobile acquisition can give you this? Those micro vibrations do ruin the shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Those micro vibrations do ruin the shots. You can always try to fix it @post... greenscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Emanuel said: You can always try to fix it @post... Not sure that you can. Maybe handheld would be better then a helmet cam. But its maybe also possible the IBIS or lens stabilization is causing the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Not sure that you can. Maybe handheld would be better then a helmet cam. But its maybe also possible the IBIS or lens stabilization is causing the issue. I also wonder if this cannot be handled from optimizing the better settings to properly do the job, limiting the lens IS included. No other (action) cam will be able to give you that FF outcome anyway :- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Emanuel said: I also wonder if this cannot be handled from optimizing the better settings to properly do the job, limiting the lens IS included. No other (action) cam will be able to give you that FF outcome anyway :- ) Thats true, but in this case its not an advantage as you have lots of space between the subject and the background. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Emanuel said: You can always try to fix it @post... Wash your mouth out with soap. Snowfun and Emanuel 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 hours ago, zerocool22 said: Thats true, but in this case its not an advantage as you have lots of space between the subject and the background. That's a double challenge indeed : ) 3 hours ago, IronFilm said: Wash your mouth out with soap. Isn't that what they actually try?? ; ) It's not true such attempt is totally useless at all. Without mention, cut is part of the process, post (part of this craft) is not only trying to correct with 10% warp stabilization. That said, imperfection is part of this art. There is a level of tolerance on both ways for sure. Other than that it's just people complaining on web ;- ) techie and greenscreen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenscreen Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Emanuel said: That's a double challenge indeed : ) Isn't that what they actually try?? ; ) It's not true such attempt is totally useless at all. Without mention, cut is part of the process, post (part of this craft) is not only trying to correct with 10% warp stabilization. That said, imperfection is part of this art. There is a level of tolerance on both ways for sure. Other than that it's just people complaining on web ;- ) Nothing wrong with that post work. No action cam will mimic that. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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