Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 17, 2020 Administrators Share Posted November 17, 2020 My take on the benchmark results: https://www.eoshd.com/news/apple-m1-crushes-intel-beats-6000-mac-pro-2019-and-10-core-intel-i9-macbook-pro-16/ John Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniBaba Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 here we are https://www.theverge.com/21570497/apple-macbook-pro-2020-m1-review Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terozzz Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Yeah and losses to 1400€ ryzen laptop. By a lot. Loses even for the cheap ryzen 4600U. arson519, sanveer, TheRenaissanceMan and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ItzhakW Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The mobile-like SOC approach with on-die DRAM will give great performance. But remember the cost in modularity... 16GB Max makes any of these models unattractive to me and I assume I'm not the only one who see it this way. As fast as they are - they don't feel future-proofed. Hackinotsh it is, until proper pro-models exists and if priced reasonably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 It sounds like the Air is one to get for me... portability, a keyboard, great performance, with OSX, no stupid audio and update problems with hackintoshes, no stupid Touch Bar, seems like a no-brainer. I'm saving up now. OniBaba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, John Matthews said: It sounds like the Air is one to get for me... portability, a keyboard, great performance, with OSX, no stupid audio and update problems with hackintoshes, no stupid Touch Bar, seems like a no-brainer. I'm saving up now. Thermal throttle is no fun though, unless you edit super fast tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, ntblowz said: Thermal throttle is no fun though, unless you edit super fast From the sound of it, you need to throw a lot at it for that. I'll risk it on a portable device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 looks like only the chinese have more in-depth review of video editing for now, On Da Vinci current Intel mbp still is faster, but on FCX is much fasteron M1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX_91XDZsuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, John Matthews said: From the sound of it, you need to throw a lot at it for that. I'll risk it on a portable device. The current videos out so far is only doing simple layer edit, once you put multiple layer/lut etc the throttle will be more obvious tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Some more mindblowing tests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 HUGE media blitz with glowing reviews...remember me the launches of certain images devices that we are used here... 🙂 Looks like the new Macs are really good, but if I was looking to buy one, would wait until some real world users put it to their paces (and maybe the Rosetta caches becomes full). The 16Gb ram (not expandable) max and the restriction of having only one external monitor could be deal breakers to some video editing setups. (and with the "Apple dollar" here in Brazil, you could buy a top last gen Ryzen with 32 gb ram, top video card and 2TB SSD with the local price of the new Mac Mini, and have some money to spare...) Emanuel, maxmizer and sanveer 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 10 hours ago, terozzz said: Yeah and losses to 1400€ ryzen laptop. By a lot. Loses even for the cheap ryzen 4600U. Except that Ryzen can’t edit HEVC 4:2:2 smoothly at all. And since we are on a camera forum, I would assume that is very important consideration for many people. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 For the FCP video editors out there: 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 HEVC from R5 with insane bitrates...not a problem 4K 60p 10-bit 4:2:2 HEVC with several corrections and a LUT applied....not a problem. Very impressive considering his $15,000 Mac Pro can’t do it. majoraxis, ntblowz and Emanuel 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, Video Hummus said: Except that Ryzen can’t edit HEVC 4:2:2 smoothly at all. And since we are on a camera forum, I would assume that is very important consideration for many people. Need desktop Ryzen to edit HEVC 4:2:2 smooth, 5950x can handle 3 stream of h.265 4k60p real time smooth, but then no laptop have the power of that. I m curious to see the difference between 8gb and 16gb for a bit bigger projects. tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, ntblowz said: I m curious to see the difference between 8gb and 16gb for a bit bigger projects More RAM always better if you can afford it. Looking like 13in MBP with 16GB is my next laptop. I have an R5 coming and all the heavy lifting I would do on my computer is video editing...so I’d rather pay $1,500 for a MBP then $4,000 for a fully spec out intel Mac and not be able to edit my footage smoothly without time-consuming transcoding. No background rendering required with any R5 footage in FCP on M1 Macs, even with correction and a LUT applied. Pretty amazing. Now they just need to update FCP with enhanced features like tracking and facial recognition and tracking to keep it competitive with resolve and premier. ntblowz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Blown away by the benchmarks. It looks awesome for h265 and FCP. There’s now a month wait for the Mini’s. Should have just ordered one last week and returned if they were turds. But holy shit they fast. Now I have to wait... chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Looks like Apple could make an M1 “iPad” that could edit video with a touch screen interface. That would cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniBaba Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Amazeballs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Apple wasn't going to go with selfmade CPUs and make a hole in the water. I wasn't expecting it as big a jump as it is. People are still concerned about the 16Gb max RAM, but the video by Max Yuryev is with a 8Gb Macbook Air. They will sell like hot cakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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