Panasonic Lumix S5 New Firmware w/ 10-bit V-Log & DCI-4K

[SoFloCineFile]

Testing some night-time video with the Lumix S5 on the new Nov. 24th 2020 firmware! 

-Shot hand-held in 4K DCI using V-Log picture profile

-20-60mm Panasonic L-mount kit lens

 

[SoFloCineFile]

New Firmware for entire Lumix S line of cameras can be downloaded here:

https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/index4.html

[Mckinise]

Did the update also add true 24.0 fps?

[SoFloCineFile]

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1 hour ago, Mckinise said:

Did the update also add true 24.0 fps?

I just checked my original files from the camera and framerate is 23.98. 

Would you be so kind as to explain more about why an exact fps of 24 is desirable? I'm not that advanced into videography to understand the difference that 23.98 vs 24 fps has on image quality...

[Mark Romero 2]

Also, I thought I read that DCI 4K just crops in from the top and bottom??? (As opposed to expanding the horizontal field of view.) Can anyone confirm?

[SoFloCineFile]

I will do a recording of the same scene using both formats--3840 x 2160 and 4096 x 2160--and verify whether that concern is legit or not.

[SoFloCineFile]

 

7 hours ago, SoFloCineFile said:

  8 hours ago, Mckinise said:

Did the update also add true 24.0 fps?

Would anyone care to explain how shooting in 24 fps vs. 23.98 has a tangible effect on image quality? 

[seanzzxx]

It doesn't, camera nerds on fora have a hard on for it, that's all. In the extremely unlikely event that you would ever need to show your movie on a projector that doesn't support 23.98 fps you'll have to speed up your footage by some imperceptible amount. (I'm speaking from experience here).

[SoFloCineFile]

37 minutes ago, seanzzxx said:

It doesn't, camera nerds on fora have a hard on for it, that's all. In the extremely unlikely event that you would ever need to show your movie on a projector that doesn't support 23.98 fps you'll have to speed up your footage by some imperceptible amount. (I'm speaking from experience here).

Thank you! 

[Mckinise]

On 12/2/2020 at 5:09 PM, SoFloCineFile said:

 

Would anyone care to explain how shooting in 24 fps vs. 23.98 has a tangible effect on image quality? 

It is one less step I have to do in post. In a multiple camera set-up, it is one less headache if I can set all cameras to 24 fps.

[SoFloCineFile]

2 hours ago, Mckinise said:

It is one less step I have to do in post. In a multiple camera set-up, it is one less headache if I can set all cameras to 24 fps.

Understood.

Are you using Davinci for post-editing? Whenever I've had clips with different frame rates I make sure to first set my timeline to the desired framerate (and not let it automatically decide framerate based on the clip properties). then I just work on the ones that I want to conform first by doing multiselect on those clips and then right click, change speed, and set the framerate to 24.

Also, I've noticed since updating to Davinci 17 that when I specify a project framerate of 24 fps, all those 23.98fps clips appear as 24fps once I drop them onto the timeline...so I really don't think the aforementioned additional step is even needed  if using the latest version of Davinci 17 and specifying project framerate beforehand.

[newfoundmass]

On 12/3/2020 at 12:39 AM, seanzzxx said:

It doesn't, camera nerds on fora have a hard on for it, that's all. In the extremely unlikely event that you would ever need to show your movie on a projector that doesn't support 23.98 fps you'll have to speed up your footage by some imperceptible amount. (I'm speaking from experience here).

It's about consistency, especially when you're working on professional projects. If I deliver 23.98 fps footage to someone that hired me to film b-roll for their feature or documentary, I'm probably not going to get hired again. That footage needs to seamlessly fit into their work flow. Having a hard on for it really has nothing to do with it. 

If you're personally filming stuff for your own project, then shoot in whatever frame rate your heart desires. 

[newfoundmass]

Have they added shutter angle yet? 

[herein2020]

21 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

Have they added shutter angle yet? 

Yes and its wonderful. Now if they would just add false color and better focus peaking it would be great.

[zerocool22]

On 12/5/2020 at 6:20 AM, newfoundmass said:

It's about consistency, especially when you're working on professional projects. If I deliver 23.98 fps footage to someone that hired me to film b-roll for their feature or documentary, I'm probably not going to get hired again. That footage needs to seamlessly fit into their work flow. Having a hard on for it really has nothing to do with it. 

If you're personally filming stuff for your own project, then shoot in whatever frame rate your heart desires. 

Luckely I live in Europe and its all 25fps. 

[Mark Romero 2]

On 12/5/2020 at 7:23 PM, herein2020 said:

Yes and its wonderful. Now if they would just add false color and better focus peaking it would be great.

And the ability to punch in while recording.

[TomTheDP]

3 hours ago, Mark Romero 2 said:

And the ability to punch in while recording.

not possible unfortunately 

[Emanuel]