Nikkor Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The guys over at nikon hacker have managed to change the bitrate options on many nikon cameras. Higher bitrates produce cleaner movements, cleaner shadows, clean details. The result is an image that can take more grading and sharpening without producing artifacts. http://nikonhacker.com/ Current hacks (video related): Nikon Patch v1.18.1 BETA (26/02/2014) current limitations : -recording time is reduced (2x bitrate, 1/2 recordingtime) -on-camera playback of videofiles does only work with lower bitrates and depends on card speed although it is not perfectly clear. (green has been tested on actual hardware, orange has not been tested, red is experimental,pink is nonfunctional) No guarantee, strictly at your own risk I will try to keep the list up to date, check the nikonhacker for latest news. Availible -Video Related- Firmware Alterations: D3100 Liveview Manual Control ISO/Shutter - BETA Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA D3200 Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA D5100 Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA Live View Manual Control ISO/Shutter Live View HDMI & LCD Clean D5200 -useless atm- (the update works but it doesn't produce the desired bitrate increase) Video 1080 40mbps Bitrate - ALPHA Video 1080 57mbps Bitrate - ALPHA D7000 Live View HDMI & LCD Clean Live View No Display Auto Off - BETA Video 1080 24fps 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 24fps 49mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 24fps 64mbps Bitrate - BETA D800 Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA D800E Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA D600 Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA D4 Video 1080 36mbps Bitrate - BETA Video 1080 54mbps Bitrate - BETA dahlfors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Read up on it a bit. D5200 and D800 should both be on the Expeed 3 generation of processors, which are newer than the processors in D5100 & D7000. So, the D800 won't likely follow in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Well Simeone gave this answer: https://nikonhacker.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1779&start=60#p11792 who knows, they removed timelimitation on the d800 so maybe it's similar. Btw,they are saying that the video is 4:2:2, or at least the live view feed. http://simeonpilgrim.com/nikon-patch/nikon-patch-beta.html [update] d3100 and d800 coming next: https://nikonhacker.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1790 We got lucky :D, I'll try it first with the d7000. dahlfors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafcutter Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 This is cool for the 3100! Having a bit more control in live view and increasing the recording time limit would be nice to have. With a bit of work the image out of the 3100 is really nice for what I do so any improvement is all gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafcutter Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The second pic looks nicer to me - what are these two pictures comparing in terms of specs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Fist one standart codec, second one 65mbps. 200% zoom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 This is very nice, they are making big progress reverse engineering the Nikon firmware and with the example of magic lantern for Canon, big things could result. I don't know how the SD interface of the Nikons like the D5200/D5300/D7100 would sustain data rate for raw. If they are able to do it, it would be immense because of the dynamic range that would put them much higher than the Canons for me. I would personally prefer a 10 bit log high bitrate codec but I think that it might be more complicated than RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreaking Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I would just hope that they can give a better bitrate and more UI features like magic lantern does. SOLD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafcutter Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 My understanding is that the situation on Nikon is much more constrained and therefore it is very difficult to add lots of new things. On Canon you can add entirely new bits of code that run off SD card so you have lots more flexibility. On Nikon you have to fit it all into the space onboard the chip inside the camera - so if you want to add something new you have to overwrite something that is already there (and hopefully not being used) and/or just switch things back on that Nikon engineers switched off and/or change the values of certain variables (e.g. bitrate = XXX). It also means that the development process is more difficult as you might inadvertently overwrite something important which can break the camera. Unless Nikon change the way their firmware works I think Canon / ML will always be further ahead in this regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafcutter Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Fist one standart codec, second one 65mbps. 200% zoom. That is nice - are there any good movie examples online showing the differences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 [update] d3100 and d800 coming next: https://nikonhacker.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1790 We got lucky :D, I'll try it first with the d7000. Oh, very very interesting. Thanks for this info :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I can't say anything about the cameras that have been/are soon going to be hacked, but a high bitrate hack for the amazing D5300 would be awesome. But what I'd really, really love is peaking. You have no idea how awesome that would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMedia Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Would this work with the Nikon D3200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafcutter Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Would this work with the Nikon D3200? I think they would have to explicitly do a version for the 3200 firmware (it isn't necessarily the same as the 3100) but I think in principle it would be possible. It seems that they work on the cameras they physically have (3100,5100,7000,800?) and each camera requires a new hack (although some share parts of the firmware which makes certain models easier to get started with). If they have the physical camera to work with, the time to do it, enough people to test (who are willing to risk potentially bricking) then all models are possible. It is pretty cool stuff but very time consuming by the looks of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimNassar Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 been waiting on a d800 hack for ages. it's magnificent for stills love it. hope it gets released soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafcutter Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Would this work with the Nikon D3200? It looks like there is some stuff in beta for the 3200 too! https://nikonhacker.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1798 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokstad Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 They released a D800 beta, thats awsome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Indeed, here's info about the patch, very interesting comment section: https://nikonhacker.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1798 Apparently one person (araucaria?) on page #2 of the comments has tested the patch on D800 with success. @araucaria - time for you to update the topic for this thread with models it works on? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yes it's me, I was kinda worried but my childish instincts made me take the risk :rolleyes: , the d800 is my workhorse. So far everything is smoother, no more macroblocking. I will update the first post later. KarimNassar and dahlfors 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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