Quirky Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Here's another pic from their website~ OK so it looks like a Toshiba Camileo + design cues taken from an old Bell&Howell 8mm cine camera + marketing campaign aimed at hipsters and voilá; the Bellami, the new hipster camcorder. It does look sort of fun and somewhat interesting, though. Without the poser. With the usual luck, it turns out to be as bad and limited as the cheap Camileos, and with some incredibly good luck it might turn out to be as good as the Nikon 1, or better. If it even gets released on the global market. Could be aimed at the Asian hipsters alone. Hence the lack of specs and teasers in Eigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 yes please!! looks like fun , great for stealing shots as its so small ! just hope the footage looks good!! There's always the GM1 when trying to be innocuous. It's been working for me. Certainly no one assumes you're doing anything professional when carrying that camera around, which is great when need be. Julian and andy lee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ive been getting away with alot with the G6 especially in Los Angeles , 10 days filming and no one said a word ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I doubt the kids that might use this in Shimokitazawa, Görlitzer Park, Shoreditch, or Silver Lake have the capability of looking threatening... Some guy was recently killed because the police thought he was carrying a gun. It was a wii remote. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-teen-holding-wii-remote-shot-cops-front-door-family-lawyer-article-1.1619842 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Is that a standard sized hot shoe on top? is it as wide as a hotshoe? I love how ridiculous the design is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 It is by Chinon. http://chinon.co.jp/?p=1067 It says "Full HD interchangeable lens digital camera Bellami HD-1 on sale soon". There is a link to this page: http://www.chinon.co.jp/bellami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preproduction77 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Probably style over substance, Superheadz, who endorse the camera also produce the Harinezumi, a digital and SD Super8 camera, which also came in a limited Chinon edition, very lo-fi, charming and not cheap at all: http://www.acgears.com/home-office/digital-cameras/superheadz-digital-harinezumi-4 Most people these days use a Super8 smartphone app for the same effect, which works rather fine, considering that most reversal film only has about 7 stops of dynamic range. As for the look, there is a also a certain resemblance with the Fujica Single 8 cameras, the popular an better quality 8mm format in Japan and only Japan: https://www.google.de/search?q=fujica+single+8&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=VzO&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NlYPU-a5Ncjoswb1rIHoCA&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1271&bih=764 In terms of the sensor, the size maybe closer to 8mm that Super8 / Single 8, since most of these cameras came with non-interchangeable zoomlenses, where as many 8mm cameras had small interchangeable prime lenses, that will in many cases not cover Super8. Pricing as I have read on various websites, probably all based on the one (wrong) source, is around 830$: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9714/chinon-bellami-hd-1-another-retro-style-cinema-camera So not cheap at all. I would hardly expect any fancy codecs or even raw, but rather an implemantation of a popular consumer codec. This is more of a toy than a pro-tool I guess. Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotbayfilms Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Probably style over substance, Superheadz, who endorse the camera also produce the Harinezumi, a digital and SD Super8 camera, which also came in a limited Chinon edition, very lo-fi, charming and not cheap at all: http://www.acgears.com/home-office/digital-cameras/superheadz-digital-harinezumi-4 Most people these days use a Super8 smartphone app for the same effect, which works rather fine, considering that most reversal film only has about 7 stops of dynamic range. As for the look, there is a also a certain resemblance with the Fujica Single 8 cameras, the popular an better quality 8mm format in Japan and only Japan: https://www.google.de/search?q=fujica+single+8&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=VzO&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NlYPU-a5Ncjoswb1rIHoCA&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1271&bih=764 In terms of the sensor, the size maybe closer to 8mm that Super8 / Single 8, since most of these cameras came with non-interchangeable zoomlenses, where as many 8mm cameras had small interchangeable prime lenses, that will in many cases not cover Super8. Pricing as I have read on various websites, probably all based on the one (wrong) source, is around 830$: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9714/chinon-bellami-hd-1-another-retro-style-cinema-camera So not cheap at all. I would hardly expect any fancy codecs or even raw, but rather an implemantation of a popular consumer codec. This is more of a toy than a pro-tool I guess. $160 isn't too bad for something imported and kitchy. I'm kind of questioning the $800 range ... starting to get into DSLR territory... hopefully that price is wrong... or maybe it does RAW ... we'll see. I want to see footage. The Superheadz Facebook page is starting to post about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Some guy was recently killed because the police thought he was carrying a gun. It was a wii remote.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-teen-holding-wii-remote-shot-cops-front-door-family-lawyer-article-1.1619842 Better just walk around in public with your hands held high in the air, to be safe. Better yet, just don't go outside. Too dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Williams Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 $160 isn't too bad for something imported and kitchy. I'm kind of questioning the $800 range ... starting to get into DSLR territory... hopefully that price is wrong... or maybe it does RAW ... we'll see. I want to see footage. The Superheadz Facebook page is starting to post about it Exactly, this thing could end up just recording iPhone quality video- unless its something more than avchd or mp4, not too exciting. Looks cool, but it needs some pretty impressive specs to justify that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotbayfilms Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Some more info has come out: http://www.superheadz.com/bellami/detail.php .... hope it gets translated soon Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiphunt Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I can't deny... that little guy is sorta cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Some more info has come out: http://www.superheadz.com/bellami/detail.php .... hope it gets translated soon You can scan the text with: http://www.newocr.com/ and then put it in google translate. I tried with the spec sheet: Format interchangeable lens Fu丿Reno丶~I vision video and still image capture supportKon丿Kuto~kameraOne sensor Boliviano type 3 2 - 00 000 pixel M. S type sensor Tze GammageRenzuma~unto D mount ( mount option Golfo use Nawani~yo '丿C'CS'M42 mountable )Grain open standard lens F = 4mm '丿over .2 D F mount lens BokFor 44 million pixels ~Kara over active matrix '丿` Nkusu LCD Nono Ne丿viewfinder one 0.47 " overNyu~ka audio-video output terminal HDM overDc in 5VUSB USB2'0 (HighSpeed ​​correspondence)3.5mm line input Sutere~ominija ' linkF `y Dofon output 3.5mm Sutere~ominija ` linkSa~undosutere~o built-in condenser Ma~i networkInner Kura Supi~kaDatabase Bok Robofura `y ` Nshuho Toshu Nawani External robbed Nasutorobofura ` ` Nshu~yuni client can be connectedNote memory '丿one SD'SDHC, SDXC ~Kado (~ over 28GB)Kura internal memo丿ー87MB' Two three -inch丿one single (N over MH'è®æºä¸¿Isuzu Nte A丿Les months '丿)AC adapter one 5V0 · C ~ operating environment recommended use temperature 40 · C35% allowable relative humidity to 80 percent26og only Tadashi-ryou body + lensOnly body size (no lens ) 9.6 cmx9 · 5cmx3 · 3cm (WxHxD)Price ( excluding tax ) 85'000 yenOne year warranty period禮守hear In other words: D-mount (C/CS/M42 with adapters?) 1/3" sensor (??) 2 Megapixels (??) 4mm f/1.2 lens 0.47" viewfinder - 1,44 megapixels (?) USB 2 3.5mm jack input and output SD card 1080p, 720p @ 10 / 15 / 30 fps (wtf, no 25/24?) DNG raw (1080p) - just for stills! iso 160-12800 85.000 yen = ~$820 / €590 Release mid march. /edit: mount adapters are on the order page: http://www.superheadz.com/bellami/order.php There is a sample video too: Looks like crap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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