Video Hummus Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 2:47 PM, androidlad said: A1 seems to have insane rolling shutter performance for video. Only 2ms for 8K 30P, thanks to DRAM being made available for video read-out modes for the first time ever. In stills mode, this increases to 5ms @14bit readout. Thats ARRI Alexa levels of rolling shutter and approaching ARRI Alexa levels of dynamic range as well. Seems to me, based off Gerald's hands on with it, that it is perhaps worth the price tag for people that don't want or need a flip screen and wants a hybrid camera that does it all, at least the best one so far. I wonder how FX9 owners are feeling now? DFason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 14 hours ago, Video Hummus said: I wonder how FX9 owners are feeling now? Very very few FX9 owners could 100% replace their FX9 with a Sony a1, they're too drastically different. Tim Sewell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 13 hours ago, IronFilm said: Very very few FX9 owners could 100% replace their FX9 with a Sony a1, they're too drastically different. Perhaps, but Sony A1 + XLR-K3M is a compelling setup. No internal ND or SDI. I would bet money Sony will release a mirrorless camera like A1 or A7S with a eND within the next 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianluca Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Androidlad you always write wrong spec, always.. " 1 seems to have insane rolling shutter performance for video. Only 2ms for 8K 30P, thanks to DRAM being made available for video read-out modes for the first time ever. In stills mode, this increases to 5ms @14bit readout." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Can't wait till these latest Sony sensors trickle down to Panasonic and Z-cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I hope canon will finally release a firmware update to fix the r5.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 A1 readout modes: 8K up to 30P: Over-sampled from 8640 x 4860 full width readout. 17ms rolling shutter. 1/57s readout speed. FF 4K up to 60P: 2 x 2 pixel-binned from full width to 4320 x 2430, then over-sampled to 3840 x 2160. 9ms rolling shutter. 1/114s readout speed. 4K 120P: 2 x 2 pixel-binned from 7680 x 4320 window (1.12x crop) to 3840 x 2160. 8ms rolling shutter. 1/124s readout speed. S35 crop 4K up to 60P: Over-sampled from 5760 x 3240 window (1.5x crop) to 3840 x 2160. 11ms rolling shutter. 1/90s readout speed. padam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 9:39 AM, Video Hummus said: I would bet money Sony will release a mirrorless camera like A1 or A7S with a eND within the next 2-3 years. Many of us thought an a7 series (or similar hybrid) from Sony would have had an eND within 2-3yrs back 2-3yrs ago!! We'll probably see another couple of years pass by once again with nothing happening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 14 hours ago, IronFilm said: Many of us thought an a7 series (or similar hybrid) from Sony would have had an eND within 2-3yrs back 2-3yrs ago!! We'll probably see another couple of years pass by once again with nothing happening.... So you thought you would get an eND before 10-bit? I think its coming. They are running out of things to compete on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Video Hummus said: So you thought you would get an eND before 10-bit? I think its coming. They are running out of things to compete on. Well, perhaps not the a7 would have, but one of the other hybrid mirrorless would've got it! Remember, we got already got 10bit in mirrorless well over two years ago. (and external 10bit even longer ago before that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethman Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 seems that Sony registered even an FX3 new camera but no specs aviable atm, maybe an A1 in a cube shape with ND and without ibis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 8:26 PM, androidlad said: A1 readout modes: 8K up to 30P: Over-sampled from 8640 x 4860 full width readout. 17ms rolling shutter. 1/57s readout speed. FF 4K up to 60P: 2 x 2 pixel-binned from full width to 4320 x 2430, then over-sampled to 3840 x 2160. 9ms rolling shutter. 1/114s readout speed. 4K 120P: 2 x 2 pixel-binned from 7680 x 4320 window (1.12x crop) to 3840 x 2160. 8ms rolling shutter. 1/124s readout speed. S35 crop 4K up to 60P: Over-sampled from 5760 x 3240 window (1.5x crop) to 3840 x 2160. 11ms rolling shutter. 1/90s readout speed. So basically almost exacty the same as the R5 in all modes (except no 4K HQ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, padam said: So basically almost exacty the same as the R5 in all modes (except no 4K HQ). Yeah but R5 has inferior sub-sampling method - it line-skips for 4K normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 hours ago, androidlad said: Yeah but R5 has inferior sub-sampling method - it line-skips for 4K normal mode. I hope to see them side-by-side, but it looks just like R5 standard 4K to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, padam said: I hope to see them side-by-side, but it looks just like R5 standard 4K to me. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=sony_a1&attr29_1=canon_eosr5&attr29_2=panasonic_dcs1h&attr29_3=sony_a7siii&attr72_0=4k&attr72_1=4k_hfr&attr72_2=c4k&attr72_3=4k&normalization=full&widget=627&x=0.003428804151418646&y=-0.002851399253529687 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Sony has just published a paper at ISSCC 2021 detailing the groundbreaking new 50.1MP sensor used in A1: http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.com/2021/02/isscc-2021-sony-501mp-full-frame-sensor.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Here comes the king: DFason, Robert Collins, Emanuel and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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