gt3rs Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Django said: Well I had my first overheat yesterday during an interview. I thought it was going to be a 15-30mn max job but it ended up dragging on over an hour. Overheat came on just at the end so I was saved but cool down time was about 30mn. I don't think I can recommend this camera for that type of application. Biggest issue of the R6 is that it does not have any non overheating modes right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 That's a little disconcerting what sort of temperature were you filming at, inside or out? Have been testing the R6 and one major irritant for me is that I can't use the cameras touch screen and record internally when I have an external monitor hooked up. Really shitty thing to do, is this the same with the R5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, ade towell said: Have been testing the R6 and one major irritant for me is that I can't use the cameras touch screen and record internally when I have an external monitor hooked up. Really shitty thing to do, is this the same with the R5? Yes sir. ade towell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Bummer, I hate Canon some times, seems like more petty segmentation to me, they always find a way of kicking you in the knackers just when you start warming to a camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plucas Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Django said: Well I had my first overheat yesterday during an interview. I thought it was going to be a 15-30mn max job but it ended up dragging on over an hour. Overheat came on just at the end so I was saved but cool down time was about 30mn. I don't think I can recommend this camera for that type of application. Unless you bring a small fan apparently (see Cruisn Canada's video for reference). I don't know how professional that looks, however, or if it's reassuring for the client. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, plucas said: Unless you bring a small fan apparently (see Cruisn Canada's video for reference). I don't know how professional that looks, however, or if it's reassuring for the client. I feel like the more clever fan rigs are professional looking enough. I’d probably replace the heatsink but I’m a little too comfortable with opening up expensive equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 18 hours ago, gt3rs said: Biggest issue of the R6 is that it does not have any non overheating modes right? Yeah no 4K option. Only FHD doesn't overheat. 16 hours ago, ade towell said: That's a little disconcerting what sort of temperature were you filming at, inside or out? Indoors. Average room temperature. I mean it's nothing new, overheating is well documented and I believe R6 actually has longer 4K recording time than R5's 4KHQ. Still obviously a concern for long applications. 7 hours ago, plucas said: Unless you bring a small fan apparently (see Cruisn Canada's video for reference). I don't know how professional that looks, however, or if it's reassuring for the client. Can't find the video, you got a link? Only dedicated fan I remember and would consider was the Tilta cooling kit: But it looks like they abandoned the project.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Thanks for the info as you say it is well documented but what I can't find out is if you are able to turn to FHD mode once it has overheated in 4k or do you have to wait 30 mins to start again in any mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plucas Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 @Django From 2:55 onwards: https://youtu.be/09Ry5cvUc74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 20 hours ago, ade towell said: That's a little disconcerting what sort of temperature were you filming at, inside or out? Have been testing the R6 and one major irritant for me is that I can't use the cameras touch screen and record internally when I have an external monitor hooked up. Really shitty thing to do, is this the same with the R5? 17 hours ago, Video Hummus said: Yes sir. Not sure what you want to do but If I have enable both LCD and the external HDMI screen I can use the touch screen of the LCD for focusing, Q menu etc.. it does not work when you are in the menu but who cares about it.... R5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Interesting, does the LCD screen stay on - with the R6 if I have the cameras LCD and external screen on then I can't record to the cameras card. With just the external screen on the cameras LCD is not turned on and doesn't seem to respond to touch. Was hoping to be able to use the touchscreen for AF purposes mainly, tracking etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, ade towell said: Interesting, does the LCD screen stay on - with the R6 if I have the cameras LCD and external screen on then I can't record to the cameras card. With just the external screen on the cameras LCD is not turned on and doesn't seem to respond to touch. Was hoping to be able to use the touchscreen for AF purposes mainly, tracking etc R5 you can record even 8K RAW with the LCD on and the external screen on and use the touch screen. 1Dx II and III are the same too. Do you have the menu with the small camera and big screen icon enabled? Is called HDMI Display the menu... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, gt3rs said: R5 you can record even 8K RAW with the LCD on and the external screen on and use the touch screen. 1Dx II and III are the same too. Do you have the menu with the small camera and big screen icon enabled? Is called HDMI Display the menu... If I have the small camera and big screen icon enabled in HDMI display menu I get this message... "Card recording not supported. Device connected via HDMI is used instead of camera for menu display and image playback" I can only record with just the big screen icon enabled which turns off the cameras touch screen. So annoying From what you say the R5 doesn't have this limitation but Video Hummus said it did, am slightly confused or am I misreading what one of you is saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Ok from what I can find out the R5 doesn't have this problem and it's yet another bit of cheap crippling from Canon. This R6 is going back there's just too many gotchas for shooting video, I would prefer to use my Fuji's - the AF is the only real plus for the R6 (and lowlight) but if I can't touch control AF when using a monitor then its useless to me. The tracking AF on the Fuji is actually pretty good and works with external monitor hooked up like every other camera should. The R6 is a nice stills camera I'll give it that. Unfortunately the R5 is just too expensive for my intended use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 4 hours ago, ade towell said: If I have the small camera and big screen icon enabled in HDMI display menu I get this message... "Card recording not supported. Device connected via HDMI is used instead of camera for menu display and image playback" I can only record with just the big screen icon enabled which turns off the cameras touch screen. So annoying From what you say the R5 doesn't have this limitation but Video Hummus said it did, am slightly confused or am I misreading what one of you is saying? I was 100% sure because I used many time but I didi test it before posting the above. ade towell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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