andy lee Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I've just been sent this link....... have a read and a look at the video Looks like the camera overheated and set on fire . might be internal problem or the battery.... have a read of the article SSD destroyed all footage lost http://weeder.org/rLHYN6H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhessel Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Actually from all the other posting and the video it self, it looks like the internal batter exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Lithium Ion batteries can do this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 mtheory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Well, sometimes shit happens. To cameras with batteries, cars with batteries, etc, etc. Ho hum. Not really worth caps lock, is it. Anyway, I hope they'll get a new camera, either from BM or the insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 22, 2014 Administrators Share Posted March 22, 2014 You know what I dislike most of all about when people have their camera explode and make an annoying video like this... they never explain the circumstances. If there is a serious problem, pity Blackmagic trying to find out what caused it! Did he have it plugged in? Was it under hot lights? How old was the camera? Who knows!? Michael Ma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 exactly it doesnt really say why it happened ....how long was the camera on for and was it in record or standby and just on waiting to be used! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 womp womp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Cunningham Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Apparently it's a danger with the technology used in any battery of that type. It's rare but it happens. This is the first and possibly only time it's happened with a BMCC so far. It's being passed around everywhere. Let's see what BMD's response is. I question the motivation behind releasing it without more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 You know what I dislike most of all about when people have their camera explode and make an annoying video like this... they never explain the circumstances. If there is a serious problem, pity Blackmagic trying to find out what caused it! Did he have it plugged in? Was it under hot lights? How old was the camera? Who knows!? No one knows, but that doesn't matter. This is the 'internets.' Squirrel! Apparently it's a danger with the technology used in any battery of that type. It's rare but it happens. This is the first and possibly only time it's happened with a BMCC so far. It's being passed around everywhere. Let's see what BMD's response is. I question the motivation behind releasing it without more information. The motivations behind cases like this usually boil down to either emotional needs or hidden agendas (personal gain). In this particular case, even though the person behind the video is not a teenager, the core motivation was apparently attention seeking. That would be the most logical explanation, and it is the most common emotional need online. Now he got his 15 minutes. On the other hand, I question the motivation behind re-sharing a controversial story with caps locks and all, and thus helping in creating yet another false meme. What's the point? The reasons behind that strange incident are nothing but clear. Even though it appears (according to some speculations) that the battery might not be the reason for the frying, there are still a number of third party variables we know nothing about, including the conditions under which it really happened. But none of that seem to matter. The story has already gone viral, a number of blog sites are already speculating it, without knowing the facts, other than that the camera burnt out. It may well come down to just one faulty component inside just one unlucky camera unit, it may also come down to less than ideal handling of the camera, or to a combination of several different things, or it may not, we really don't know. But who cares, a new internet meme has already born; "Don't buy a Blackmagic camera, it'll blow up on you and burn your house down." Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinmcconnell Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 We warned you kids this could happen! Told you, we did! 'Constant RAW recording is too much data being transferred', we said! But you couldn't resist. Alas, NOW look where your greed has gotten you. Wannabe filmmakers everywhere will be burned and scarred. This epidemic shall spread. This is the end! Your need for RAW will bring about your RUIN! Long live ProRes and H.264! May they forever stand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 i am often concerned by how warm the pocket gets. in order for this type of heat to be generated so quickly I imagine the battery is being drawn at much too high output currents - way more than the nikon cameras the batteries are running from. I find this video ridiculous though. 1. I doubt any flames were present. 2. would you not think to remove the ssd and the lens? 3. what type of wimp runs out before ensuring the fire is extinguished? I'd have carried the camera out of the building at arms length via the tripod. 4. looks to me like a lame attempt to get more hits on their crappy kickstarter project. andy lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 23, 2014 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2014 I am amazed what other blogs (PetaPixel, Planet5D) consider as front page news. This kind of stuff generates clicks. Brain dead, but it is click bate nonetheless. That makes money in the long run. I am so sick of this kind of gimmicky, zero fact or imagination based click bate. I hope Blackmagic refuse to replace the camera on principal. The guys posting this have lost Blackmagic business and it might not even have been a legitimate battery fault. etidona and HurtinMinorKey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmcindie Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Atleast Petapixels comment section was way smarter than the forum posts here. Refusal to replace a camera because a video has been uploaded to youtube would just be stupid beyond belief. Beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 i am often concerned by how warm the pocket gets. in order for this type of heat to be generated so quickly I imagine the battery is being drawn at much too high output currents - way more than the nikon cameras the batteries are running from. As far as I've understood, the BMPCC is using a peltier cooling system, which uses a lot of battery power, but the heat is dissipated into the camera body via the cooling element, it's not the battery that generates the heat. So the body getting pretty warm at times is normal. In theory a component breaking inside that cooling system could possibly cause problems. But it's pointless to speculate, as we really don't know anything. It could still be a number of reasons. This kind of stuff generates clicks. Brain dead, but it is click bate nonetheless. That makes money in the long run. It's the 2010's, and the whole mainstream media has become brain dead. Click baiting and copy&paste journalism are the new normal. Atleast Petapixels comment section was way smarter than the forum posts here. Refusal to replace a camera because a video has been uploaded to youtube would just be stupid beyond belief. Beyond. Oh come on, don't join yet another internet lynch mob, and help propagating yet another pointless (and often purposeful) internet meme. Let's not be played by yet another silly distraction for all the wrong reasons. This isn't worth it. There are at least two sides to this story, too, and we don't really know either of them. All we know that a camera started (apparently) overheating for some unknown reason, that's all. What BM will or won't do as a consequence is none of our worries. Some (now viral) online video won't make it our business. People were criticising the uploading of that video without all the facts, and the way the controversial video now gets promoted online as "news." It has nothing to do with BM per se. So let's move along, shall we. Escapist and EeeCeeGee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBarlow Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Of course this could be FUD :P , but can you imagine if the BMPCC caught fire when well ....... when it was in your trouser pocket!!! This old tune comes to mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/p/ Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I just sold my BMCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Many of you haven't seen the positive in this. Blackmagic will clearly find the reason why the batteries could explode and improve the QC in future cameras. Professional cameras used in a professional environment should be able to withstand the rigours of professional shooting, whether thats under hot studio lights or on top of a cold mountain side. Obviously if you shoot inside a volcano or in the bath, there could be an issue ;) If it was the fault of the user however, then well, s*** happens! However thats unlikely. Something on the rig caused it, the camera itself or the battery pack. Or the power of the filmmakers minds! :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtinMinorKey Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The IQ is worth the 1/1000000 chance of smokey battery. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhessel Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Rechargeable batters can and do explode and it can happen with just about anything. Do a google image search for exploded battery. I found lots of results, didn't see any from a blackmagic camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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