Upgrading to an... older camera

[IronFilm]

2 hours ago, TomTheDP said:

I didn't realize the Sony F3 was almost the weight of a RED, a bit lighter. 5 pounds is a good weight though I think. Definitely helps to having something DSLR size for one man crew stuff though.

The Sony PMW-F3 is waaaaaaaaay lighter than it's nearest (in terms of price) RED! (that is, the RED ONE MX)

I'd shot a little with the RED ONE, and that experience was one of the factors which made me in the end lean towards getting a Sony PMW-F3 instead. 

[TomTheDP]

Just now, IronFilm said:

The Sony PMW-F3 is waaaaaaaaay lighter than it's nearest (in terms of price) RED! (that is, the RED ONE MX)

I'd shot a little with the RED ONE, and that experience was one of the factors which made me in the end lean towards getting a Sony PMW-F3 instead. 

The RED one is a heavy guy. The Next up Scarlet MX is much more manageable though. No ND filters or high ISO performance either but REDraw is very nice to work with. 

[IronFilm]

If you could buy a RED Scarlet MX (that's a complete & working kit) for the same price as a Sony PMW-F3, then I'd have considered it?

But 7yrs+ ago, the Scarlet MX cost waaaaaaaay more than what I paid for a Sony F3! Still does cost a lot more than the going price for an F3. 

With the cost difference in 2021, you could easily buy a Sony FS7 / F5 instead of a Scarlet MX. You might even have enough left over cash to pick up an a7S secondhand too. 

[TomTheDP]

40 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

If you could buy a RED Scarlet MX (that's a complete & working kit) for the same price as a Sony PMW-F3, then I'd have considered it?

But 7yrs+ ago, the Scarlet MX cost waaaaaaaay more than what I paid for a Sony F3! Still does cost a lot more than the going price for an F3. 

With the cost difference in 2021, you could easily buy a Sony FS7 / F5 instead of a Scarlet MX. You might even have enough left over cash to pick up an a7S secondhand too. 

Yeah the MX is a bit outdated. However if you want RED its a very affordable option and the body itself is light enough not to hold you up too much in any given situation. 

[IronFilm]

However got all the frame rate / cropping limitations of the Scarlet. Even at a "cheap" price I struggle to find it appealing to buy. 

[TomTheDP]

8 hours ago, IronFilm said:

However got all the frame rate / cropping limitations of the Scarlet. Even at a "cheap" price I struggle to find it appealing to buy. 

True, I will say the image looks beautiful even at 3k 60fps. I was never impressed by the specs but I can't deny the image just works as long as you aren't shooting with tungsten lighting.