Django Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Is the new lower bitrate option in Clog h264 or 4:2:0 h265? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Considering the R5 now with CLOG3. Some of the fan mods looks doable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Django said: Is the new lower bitrate option in Clog h264 or 4:2:0 h265? IPB Low with Clog enabled is still h265 10bit 4:2:2. My high end gaming notebook can play back 4k 60fps in real time on a 4k DCI 60p timeline with couple of nodes LUT + sharpening + basic color correction but is all done in CPU (ca 70% cpu usage), ALL-I cannot playback at 60fps in realtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Being 4:2:2 h.265, I assume that the new codecs are still a PITA to edit? Still need to transcode or use proxies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Yup, kind of disappointing they didn't think of making the 10-bit codec easier to edit. Would have been a safe way to make the R5/R6 more competitive with A7S3. Also let down with no Clog3 for R6/1DX3 owners even though it is rumoured to come later (i.e. another 6 months). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I've never understood Canon's logic. I once owned the 1DX2 and they never put Clog of any kind on that camera...their flagship camera. They did put it on the 5D Mark IV, but never on the 1DX2. That's about the time I switched to Sony and have been with Sony ever since. I had plans to switch back to Canon (since I still own expensive Canon lenses) with the R5 but what kept me from switching were record limits, overheating and the hard to edit codecs. I spend too much time already putting videos together and then to add transcoding to the workflow was just too much for me. I was hoping the new firmware would match the codecs of the A7SIII and A1 cameras. Their files/codecs are such a pleasure to work with. Makes editing easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 DSI Pictures talking about his time shooting 8K in 34'c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Pretty surprised but I could play back the new 8k Raw codec in DaVinci Resolve on a three-year old iMac (souped up at the time however). I have always edited in Premiere but it's pretty insane how much smoother DaVinci is with everything. Need to make the full switch. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 The latest Intel processors will support 10-bit 4:2:2 H.265 hardware decoding which will work with DaVinci Resolve 17.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 37 minutes ago, currensheldon said: Pretty surprised but I could play back the new 8k Raw codec in DaVinci Resolve on a three-year old iMac (souped up at the time however). I have always edited in Premiere but it's pretty insane how much smoother DaVinci is with everything. Need to make the full switch. This is what I'm saying since a long time Canon RAW and the new RAW Light is fast and easy to edit on a good PC in Resolve on a 4k timeline, 8k timeline you need more than 8GB VRAM..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, gt3rs said: This is what I'm saying since a long time Canon RAW and the new RAW Light is fast and easy to edit on a good PC in Resolve on a 4k timeline, 8k timeline you need more than 8GB VRAM..... The new RAW light on 16GB M1 MBP will playback when viewer is set to “best performance” in FCP. Image looks fantastic. I’m not sure what is going on but there seems to be a screen brightness or even view assist problem in clog3 mode. I’m also still having problems with zebra 1+2. Zebra 1 is set to 55 and zebra 2 is set at 95 and only 95 is showing. I’ve tested multiple times and doubled and triple checked my settings. It works fine in 4KHQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, ajay said: Being 4:2:2 h.265, I assume that the new codecs are still a PITA to edit? Still need to transcode or use proxies? I think the new ipb-low is actually less taxing on computer for editing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Video Hummus said: I’m not sure what is going on but there seems to be a screen brightness or even view assist problem in clog3 mode. I’m also still having problems with zebra 1+2. Zebra 1 is set to 55 and zebra 2 is set at 95 and only 95 is showing. I’ve tested multiple times and doubled and triple checked my settings. It works fine in 4KHQ. I tested clog3 4k60, 8k 30 and 8k 30 raw with zebra 1+2 and 55+-5 and 95 and it always work. Bump iso to 25k to a bright source and 95 pattern should show up and then dial iso down until it changes to 55... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 21 hours ago, currensheldon said: Pretty surprised but I could play back the new 8k Raw codec in DaVinci Resolve on a three-year old iMac (souped up at the time however). I have always edited in Premiere but it's pretty insane how much smoother DaVinci is with everything. Need to make the full switch. Are you finding the new 8k RAW light easier to edit, my pc struggles with original 8k RAW samples I've found online even in Resolve? Can't find any RAW light samples to try out if anyone knows of any, still mulling over R5/R6 for work and with the lack of clog3 on R6 new firmware am beginning to see the lure of the R5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Wondering if the RAW light would also allow some of the cheaper cfexpress cards to work better. The price of the officially compatible ones are still eye watering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Is ISO 800 the native ISO for clog3 on the R5? It says L(400) if I set the ISO to 400, which makes me think 800 is the lowest native ISO. So the native ISOs are as follow? Non-log: 100 Clog2: 400 Clog3: 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 5 hours ago, UncleBobsPhotography said: Is ISO 800 the native ISO for clog3 on the R5? It says L(400) if I set the ISO to 400, which makes me think 800 is the lowest native ISO. So the native ISOs are as follow? Non-log: 100 Clog2: 400 Clog3: 800 Clog 1 is 400, not sure about clog 2 though. UncleBobsPhotography 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, ntblowz said: Clog 1 is 400, not sure about clog 2 though. My mistake, I meant clog1 400 iso and clog3 800 iso. R5 doesn't have clog2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, UncleBobsPhotography said: My mistake, I meant clog1 400 iso and clog3 800 iso. R5 doesn't have clog2 correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Have been hearing that clog3 doesn't seem to give the R5 any more DR than Clog does - anyone compared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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