Butch Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Impressively clean at high ISO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 6, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2014 I am not disappointed in the S-lightest :) Just picture the full frame 4K image out of the HDMI on this thing... going to look AMAZING. Butch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Anyone know what pricing on 4k external hdmi recorders are/will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 GH4's 10-bit 4:2:2 vs A7s' 8-bit 4:2:2 in a grading match up will be quite interesting - besides the usual comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Someone please build a compact 4K recorder that bolts onto the bottom of this thing. BTW they uploaded that video in 4K. What recorder do you think Sony used themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Did you look at the 5000iso footage ???! sooo clean ! Looks moiré free, sharp and clean.... Personally I don't care about 4K. 1080p full pixel readout full frame at 50mbps is perfect for me. With an amazing sensor for stills as well... Can't wait for the summer. Disappointed that they did not give a precise date.. gonna be late like august or something, and no price :(. maxotics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yeah, I won't join the choir of whiners, either. I think the A7s sounds interesting indeed. All I wish to know now is how much will it cost. Along with full specs and test runs by testers who know what to look for. BTW, fellas, do you really need to start three or four similar methinks/mewhines threads for the very same topic? It's rather confusing and distracting. Surely just one such topic should be enough. Until we get the actual EOSHD review thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Did you look at the 5000iso footage ???! sooo clean ! Looks moiré free, sharp and clean.... Personally I don't care about 4K. 1080p full pixel readout full frame at 50mbps is perfect for me. With an amazing sensor for stills as well... Can't wait for the summer. Disappointed that they did not give a precise date.. gonna be late like august or something, and no price :(. Well, until out of camera files starts to circulate it's just speculation over a Youtube clip but it should be great indeed. The let down as a camera is that I expect low fps in burst because it seems to have the same A7/R form factor which doesn't allow a proper shutter on it - unless they solved it - and the form factor is probably the reason it doesn't do 4K internally, which the lack of room for it, this camera would catch fire with the overheat or only record short clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Well, until out of camera files starts to circulate it's just speculation over a Youtube clip but it should be great indeed. The let down as a camera is that I expect low fps in burst because it seems to have the same A7/R form factor which doesn't allow a proper shutter on it - unless they solved it - and the form factor is probably the reason it doesn't do 4K internally, which the lack of room for it, this camera would catch fire with the overheat or only record short clips. Yep but I don't mind for the fps .. ;) just want FF stills quality for portrait and landscape, and GH3 like video quality. Just hope the price is under 2k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thementalist Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 What's the cheapest external 4k recorder? In 4k do we have this "First FF non pixel binned sensor"? Also, 8 bit only, how could it be in post? Well, you can adjust something before to shot, from the camera, but is it enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Moire-free? Don´t think so. Rolling shutter? No shots on demo video. 8Bit? Sounds familiar ... BUT: It is so much better than Canons way! And we all are a little bit to petted with all the news from BM and Panasonic in the last year. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rui Soares Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 looks like an interesting camera, iso up to 460.000 :O, FF no line skipping, no binding probably a dynamic range beast too, would be happier if you could record 4k internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Yep but I don't mind for the fps .. ;) just want FF stills quality for portrait and landscape, and GH3 like video quality. Just hope the price is under 2k... Notice the product placement is one notch above A7R, I think about $3000 for price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 6, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2014 Moire-free? Don´t think so. Rolling shutter? No shots on demo video. 8Bit? Sounds familiar ... BUT: It is so much better than Canons way! And we all are a little bit to petted with all the news from BM and Panasonic in the last year. It will be as moire free as a JPEG still at full resolution. It reads out every pixel from the sensor in 4K video mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Fanucci Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Notice the product placement is one notch above A7R, I think about $3000 for price. According to SAR ... $1699.99 / £1299 (body only) MiL0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Until now it looks quite good. I don't know if I can part with em1 image stabilization.. Andrew do you know if lens stabilization will be good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiL0 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 According to SAR ... $1699.99 / £1299 (body only) hmmm - this camera is suddenly very attractive. themartist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Bieber Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 The tools have gotten so good at the low end that it really becomes not a question of equipment, but a question of ability. Escapist and themartist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundless Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 UMMMM? GH4/a7S I was looking at, holding, playing with the a7 today, unfortunately this was ...after trying the new "Lieca" branded pana-42.5/1.2. It feels like a toy camera with toy lens next to the GH3 and lovely new lens. But the larger frame and low light are seductive. I remember shooting in Tibet in 2001 with Sony cameras...great low light. So what is one to do? This is the kinda problem we should all be happy to have! Either camera in the right hands could produce gorgeous footage. Perhaps you buy one for all around production work and simply rent the a7S when you have to shoot by candle light? On board 4K and a strong lens line-up is a powerful force. And a working external 10 bit 422 path for those who have to make the grade. Also you can easily put cine lens on the GH4. Ack what to do? What if Panasonic had p2 based recorder waiting in the wings? Let's call the whole thing off....you say GH4/ I say a7S etc...I'll just shoot it with my iPhone :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yiomo Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I don't care about the 4k hype at all for many many many reasons. But 10bit 422 at 1080 should be there. In any case on the above clip at 2.24 with a 5.6 aperture and 120 12800 does it for me ! I want one. Glad i didn't preorder the other beast yet. Hope to see some good reviews soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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