Canon EOS R5C

[Davide DB]

Hi all,

Is it a R5C used here? A C70? O neither of the two?

ISO 12800

 

 

[gt3rs]

1 hour ago, Davide DB said:

Hi all,

Is it a R5C used here? A C70? O neither of the two?

ISO 12800

 

 

To me the camera on the ronin is a Sony and I would guess is A7s III

[Davide DB]

The cinematography of the frogs part is stunning

[Davide DB]

52 minutes ago, gt3rs said:

To me the camera on the ronin is a Sony and I would guess is A7s III

You are right. It's a Sony. Could be A7SIII or R or A1. Without seeing the upper part, it's hard.

 

[ND64]

2 hours ago, Davide DB said:

Without seeing the upper part, it's hard.

You don't need the upper part, its A7siii. 

[kye]

On 11/19/2023 at 3:37 AM, Eric Calabros said:

You don't need the upper part, its A7siii. 

Hot damn!  You mean we can shrink the camera bodies by just lopping bits off?

Where's my hacksaw!!

[ntblowz]

Josh did R5C vs FX3

Canon without Clog2 is really limiting the DR.

https://youtu.be/4tpBrNbf050?si=YsGJTc6_Zl_995cX

 

 

 

[Django]

Actually his test reveals very similar DR between the two with R5C having way better highlight latitude and FX3 cleaner shadow info. But its worth noting FX3 uses high amount of internal NR whereas you can dial it down on R5C. You can also access Clog2 if you shoot in RAW. So unless you need that 12,500 ISO for like extreme low-light situations, R5C is imo way better than FX3 in almost all categories. The fact FX3 still doesn't even have shutter angle is blasphemy.

[spinkscapes]

On 12/17/2023 at 12:17 AM, Django said:

Actually his test reveals very similar DR between the two with R5C having way better highlight latitude and FX3 cleaner shadow info. But its worth noting FX3 uses high amount of internal NR whereas you can dial it down on R5C. You can also access Clog2 if you shoot in RAW. So unless you need that 12,500 ISO for like extreme low-light situations, R5C is imo way better than FX3 in almost all categories. The fact FX3 still doesn't even have shutter angle is blasphemy.

Plus it doubles as an exceptional stills camera (which is great for me as a backup as a wedding photography camera).

Also Josh is quickly becoming one of my favourite Youtubers with his in-depth discussions which aren't dry or boring.

[Ty Harper]

With Canon's new C400 shipping with a brand new detachable USB-C based monitor, I've been musing on whether it might be compatible with the R5C with a firmware update, similar to what Canon did to make the C200's LM-V1 monitor compatible with the C300 MKII. As far as the technical side goes, it seems like both the R5C and C400 have the exact same USB-C 3.2 Gen 1 port. Also, I did not know this but page 123 of the R5C's video manual seems to confirm that it can output a max 8K 30p resolution via its USB-C port. I also made a call to Canon USA tech support, and while the person could not confirm that the C400's monitor would be made compatible with the R5C, they did not outright deny that is was technically impossible. Now obviously I can't be sure the person I spoke to was a reliable source. I also think there might be a chance that while the R5C and the C400 have the same USB-C port, that the amount of power they can support might be different. 

All that said, it seems like there is a chance that at least technically speaking the C400's monitor (along with its coveted touch screen AF features) could be compatible with the R5C, which imo would be a fantastic addition to its feature set. Particularly for gimbal use. I've included a pic of the C400 with its monitor attached to an RS3 Pro to demonstrate what I'm getting at! Anyways, it would be great if the more tech savvy amongsr use could do their own digging to see if this is indeed true. But either way it probably wouldn't hurt to nudge Canon so at the very least they know there is demand for such a firmware update from R5C and maybe even C70 owners (altho I'm not sure if the C70 has the same USB-C port).  

[Ty Harper]

Wow, so Matthew Allard over at Newsshooter is reporting that the Shinobi MKII will have a new FW update that allows it to do touch focus AF with the Canon R6 MKII (among other non-Canon cameras).

The R5C is not on the list yet, but this all seems promising.

Here's an excerpt from the original Atomos press release:

"At IBC, Atomos (Hall 11, D25) announces major new functionality for Shinobi II, the amazingly successful Photo | Video Monitor. Users get a world’s first: on-monitor touch auto focus and focus subject tracking, in both photo and video camera modes, and it’s a free update for all existing users. The first camera models to be supported are from Sony (A7 MkIV), Canon (R6 Mark II), Panasonic (S5 II) and Fujifilm (GFX100 II). Nikon is also now supported for photo and video modes, with auto focus and focus subject tracking to follow in future updates."

Sorry if this has already been posted but don't recall seeing it. 

[Ty Harper]

Wow, so looks like a new FW update in December will allow the R5C to do 8k 60p RAW with no external power and JUST the LP-E6P battery: https://www.canon.co.uk/press-centre/press-releases/2024/11/firmware-updates-add-extensive-new-functionalities-to-canon-professional-video-cameras/

[Django]

That is really cool, I saw a recent test I think from Josh Satin where shockingly the battery life of R5C was quite longer than R5ii using the new batteries. That plus 8K60p internal is starting to really make R5C give R5ii a run for its money!

[Ty Harper]

7 hours ago, Django said:

That is really cool, I saw a recent test I think from Josh Satin where shockingly the battery life of R5C was quite longer than R5ii using the new batteries. That plus 8K60p internal is starting to really make R5C give R5ii a run for its money!

Absolutely! Although I see them as serving two slightly different hybrid users: the cinema/photo shooter and the all round video/photo shooter. On another note, if the R5C ends up being a one-off release, it will be Canon's unicorn cam when it comes to the sheer amount of features packed into its mirrorless styled body. Kind of the way the 1DC was a one-off with an image that made it kind of a unicorn amongst DSLRs.

[ArashM]

while I hope I'm wrong, I just can't see how and where canon is going to introduce an R5C2 in their lineup!

[Django]

That would be easy for Canon actually, just stick the R5ii sensor and CPU allowing Clog2, better AF etc. Add a Full HDMI port. IBIS. 
 

Would be incremental though. What Id like to see is actually something closer to 1DC with the R3 body allowing long batterie life, vertical video shooting and of course open-gate. But that’s wishful thinking, it won’t happen.
 

Another very weird thing Josh Satin revealed was that the rolling shutter on R5ii is somehow worst than R5C even though it has a stacked sensor. On top of that you still got pixel binned 4K60p which is a total deal breaker. I really don’t get what the stacked sensor is there for, maybe stills?!
 

So for me right now, R5C is the best bang for buck hybrid cam in Canonland. Used prices keep falling to the point I may trade in some gear for one. With the vari-ND EF adapter it’s like a mini C line cam with 45MP stills cam included. 

 

[PannySVHS]

3 hours ago, Django said:

With the vari-ND EF adapter it’s like a mini C line

Also the hdmi being mini. Or wasn't it even micro? Coff, coff:)

[Django]

28 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

Also the hdmi being mini. Or wasn't it even micro? Coff, coff:)

Yeah terrible design choice and that’ll tip some towards the R5ii but me personally I never used an external monitor on my C100/200 and rarely do even on mirrorless. I do really like an EVF and find that missing in the FX3..