Junior Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Funny thing is I've been a physician for 40 years, with a PhD in Radiology for about 30, so I know a thing or two about radioactivity, and the extent of danger on us... Technically, are there risks? Yes. Just like there are risks of getting hit by a bus everytime you're walking down the street, like there are risks of getting poisoned everytime you get an x-ray, just like there are risks of getting rejected everytime you ask her out :) Just don't eat your hundred year-old lenses everyday for next 20 years, and you'll be fine, happy shooting people! Ebrahim, you're just a student from Mansoura, Egypt (at the faculty of Dentistry). Too bad I know you from other websites… SO, you're not physician for 40 years (with a PhD in Radiology for about 30) cause you're 18 years old. SO you don't "know a thing or two about radioactivity, and the extent of danger on us..." Anyway I believe you about risks of getting rejected everytime you ask her out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Cunningham Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I bet you're so shielded now too, Ebrahim. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Ebrahim, you're just a student from Mansoura, Egypt (at the faculty of Dentistry). Too bad I know you from other websites… SO, you're not physician for 40 years (with a PhD in Radiology for about 30) cause you're 18 years old. SO you don't "know a thing or two about radioactivity, and the extent of danger on us..." Anyway I believe you about risks of getting rejected everytime you ask her out. Read my signature before accusing me with lying. Don't be so defensive because we don't agree with your point,Junior :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunyata Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Welcome to the forum junior! Junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liszon Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Just out of curiosity, is there any affordable device (dosimeter maybe) that let's us to measure radiation at home more or less accurately? Let's say I have a vintage lens collection, can I check the radiation levels myself, rather than taking it to a super lab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liszon Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Just to quickly answer my own question, this one is really popular: http://www.amazon.com/Radiation-Detector-SOEKS-01M-Language/dp/B0055LL1LQ Junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunyata Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If you're into DIY electronics, there's this too: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 10 μSv is the dose everyone just got from background radiation in the last 24hrs. So 1 hour of cuddling the rear element of your radioactive lens = 1 normal day living on earth. Just after Fukushima I went to Japan. People there over the entire year had a 1,052 μSv dose of radiation based on Tokyo's readings. That is still only 2% of what the US allows workers to receive per year at work! Source: http://www.blacksmithinstitute.org/blog/radiation-101-what-is-it-how-much-is-dangerous-and-how-does-fukushima-compare-to-chernobyl/ So say you spent 5 hours shooting with your radioactive lens per day, EVERY DAY of the year. That is still only 1825 μSv exposure and still under 5% of the total limit which is considered 'safe' by the US authorities. Lol, read the first comment in your article ... Junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 what about the glow in the dark dials on my wrist watch ...shall I stop wearing that now? I'm going to build a Fariday Cage in my house to shield me from all the Wifi signals in my road .......COS THAT IS CONSTANT 24/7 unlike the old lenses that are all locked away in my lead lined cabinet. I've stopped using a cell phone too , oh and my tablet ... Sean Cunningham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted April 26, 2014 Very interesting thread. And I am reading it very fast with my three eyes. andy lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 26, 2014 Administrators Share Posted April 26, 2014 I can see Junior's case for dangerous ingestion of thorium coating if the lens is smashed and dust ingested somehow, but in the case of just using or living around the lens your skin acts as a shield... the radiation doesn't go past it and the doses aren't enough to cause skin cancer so I honestly don't think there's much to worry about. Obviously the manufacturers (Canon, and plenty of other biggies) would have done a full recall in subsequent years if evidence came up that the lenses were dangerous. They have been around for 30-40 years and there's never been anything proved! I'll remain open minded and see where the argument goes. I did once sell my radioactive FD 35mm F2.0 with concave front element and got the non-radioactive version. Might be a good subject for the A7 book to add in the specs an annual dosage ;) Junior, Sean Cunningham and vaga 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Rubbish thread. When my house is burning down I'll call for a fireman. I won't call upon one to carry out careful experimentation relating to things beyond their capabilities. I seriously doubt some bloke covered in soot, wearing a firemans hat and rubber boots with a radioshack geiger counter, chatting to you during a fire station open day can prove everyone else wrong. Sean Cunningham 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 In certain areas in Finland you receive around 25-30 microsieverts a day from natural background radiation. People live there, 24/7 all year round. Touch a lens that gives 5-10 microsieverts an hour now and then... It's a piss in the sea. Sean Cunningham, Andrew Reid and andy lee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The radiation itself is not a problem, but I can see myself washing my hands all the time with these lenses so I prefer not having them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Nice thread at least since it made me read up, do the math and learn something new: For a person living in Paris you would need to touch a lens emitting 5 microsievert/hour at a minimum of an hour every day, 365 days/year to reach the same level as the yearly background radiation here in Stockholm. Who would have thought? Source: "Radon" section at the bottom (With a map showing that half of the population in Sweden live in an area with 5-10 mSv/year) http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Safety-and-Security/Radiation-and-Health/Naturally-Occurring-Radioactive-Materials-NORM/ vaga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 So that's why you folks up there are so crazy :p dahlfors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Rubbish thread. When my house is burning down I'll call for a fireman. I won't call upon one to carry out careful experimentation relating to things beyond their capabilities. Who ya gonna call when your face is burning down? Bobby the UK cop? In France cops have guns and specialised firemen are specialised. what about the glow in the dark dials on my wrist watch ...shall I stop wearing that now? I'm going to build a Fariday Cage in my house to shield me from all the Wifi signals in my road .......COS THAT IS CONSTANT 24/7 unlike the old lenses that are all locked away in my lead lined cabinet. I've stopped using a cell phone too , oh and my tablet ... Stop wearing your grand father's wrist watch glowing in the dark if it lasts more than 2 days. It'd be more radioactive than a Takumar; this time it wouldn't be thorium but radium.http://www.andra.fr/producteurs/download/site-principal/document/objets_radioactifs.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm only here to prevent, I've seen so much Taks & Mamiyas on eBay… But each one is free. That's all folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I eat Thorium for breakfast. andy lee and richg101 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfilmz Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Man....now I want to get rid of my Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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