dreamplayhouse Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Tested out this camera at my daughter's birthday. Used a film preset with a few tweaks. I'm trying to achieve a film look from digital video. I'm wondering what you all think and if you can guess the camera. Â https://www.dropbox.com/s/ybljmgclkbfclz9/16mm.mov?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Your Olympus EM1 Mark II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamplayhouse Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 Actually something super cheap... A Lumix FZ47 which cost me $38. CCD Sensor with 25-600 F2.8 lens. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamplayhouse Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Here is the full edited/graded version. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mjsfrmeukttncp/bday-film.mov?dl=0 Be sure to download as it plays lower quality through Dropbox. Would love some honest feedback and thoughts on the grading and if the look reminds you of film at all. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Thanks for posting. Would love this CCD magic combined with a 100mbit HD codec. Here is one from @QuickHitRecord . I love how motion looks like. Maybe it is due to that footage was rendered and upscaled with Topaz, as written in the description. Like the colours as well. Â mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Great to see another FZ47 video! I like your treatment of the footage a lot. It looks different than just about everything else (obviously CMOS cameras, but it also stands apart from any of the HVX/ZIU/etc crowd too). Here's an earlier edit without Topaz: The image quality is riddled with problems, but I still find myself drawn to it. I agree with @PannySVHS; the video on this camera would have been a much more compelling feature with a higher bitrate. I wish this camera had been one of the Lumix bodies to be hacked back in the day. mercer, PannySVHS and webrunner5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Perfect cinema verité piece, exellent form! Love the colour palette, magical! Did you try the exploit for the GX85 giving it Cine D and also higher bitrates to the GX9? It was created by @BTM_Pix Unfortunately GX9 seems the only camera producing up to 200mbit for HD with this hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 @PannySVHS Thanks. This one was one of my favorites too. She wrote the words and I shot the visuals, and then I did a same-day edit -- it never had a chance to overstay its welcome. The FZ-47 isn't equipped with wifi at all. I was able to get into the service menu once in the hopes of switching it over to a 50Hz/PAL camera (currently, it can only record 29.97, but I wasn't successful in doing that either. If there any avid camera hackers here, it would not be difficult to source an FZ47 to experiment with! PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 We gotta ask @BTM_Pix. But you tricked me with your grading. I thought the super tasty colour was ooc.:) Wanna shine some light into your process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Me, or the OP? I liked his grade too. For mine, it looked terrible OOC -- it always does with this camera. I just tweaked it until I got something I liked. I think I used FilmConvert on this (probably the second Vision3 option). Heavy grain does wonders to cover up an image that's been pushed beyond its comfort zone. And then I think maybe some flicker and film dust over top to help cover it up even more? I'm pretty sure that was it. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 3:04 AM, dreamplayhouse said: Here is the full edited/graded version. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mjsfrmeukttncp/bday-film.mov?dl=0 Be sure to download as it plays lower quality through Dropbox. Would love some honest feedback and thoughts on the grading and if the look reminds you of film at all. Cool edit, and especially amusing transition at the end to the reality of the situation! Honest thoughts about the grading: You've done well, and some shots are definitely there with the film look I think the saturation is too high - if you do a google image search for "super 16 film stills" and just scroll through then you'll see that film doesn't get that saturated, or if it does it's because it's been pushed in one direction (e.g. when the whole frame is very warm or very cool) I think the "look" is applied too strongly - the look pushes the warm and cool colours and mutes the magenta/green colours but if you look at the rainbows (the bag and the girls t-shirt with the heart on it) the purple is almost colour-less compared to the warm and cool tones which are bordering on electric Some shots are too sharp - different film stocks all had different colour palettes but one of the give-away things of film was the texture of details and of grain.  Some shots are soft and have the right amount of detail, but other shots are much more detailed/sharper and are reminiscent of 35mm or MF film, which doesn't fit with the camera being hand-held outdoors.  A slight blur of those shots would really help. Getting the "film look" is a rabbit hole that's very very deep, and I've seen colourists say that they've never seen a film grain emulation that looked real to them - but that's because they stared at real film for 12-18 hours per day for 30 years.  Obviously the rest of us aren't so attuned to it! If you apply the film emulation slightly less strongly, make the whole thing less saturated and blur the shots more evenly then I think it'll be quite convincing.  The awesome thing about these three treatments is that they all help to make lower-quality footage from a cheaper camera look better.  I've played this game with very very low-image quality cameras and you'd be amazed at how much you can 'save' a horrifically digital image by making it look low-quality film.  Image quality doesn't get better, but it's much much nicer to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 6:00 AM, QuickHitRecord said: Great to see another FZ47 video! I like your treatment of the footage a lot. It looks different than just about everything else (obviously CMOS cameras, but it also stands apart from any of the HVX/ZIU/etc crowd too). Here's an earlier edit without Topaz: The image quality is riddled with problems, but I still find myself drawn to it. I agree with @PannySVHS; the video on this camera would have been a much more compelling feature with a higher bitrate. I wish this camera had been one of the Lumix bodies to be hacked back in the day. Great little edit. Â Film emulation is on-point too - great stuff! PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 OK - I was inspired by this thread, so I took some footage with an 8-bit camera of a shopping trip and gave it a film emulation treatment. Â Any guesses on the camera? webrunner5, PannySVHS and mercer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 geee exx faaaahive! @kye 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, PannySVHS said: geee exx faaaahive! @kye 🙂 Nope! Definitely an 8-bit camera... PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Nice work! GX85? PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 That's what I meant, GX85, Gee eX, forgot the eighty before the five.😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Nope, not GX85 either 🙂 It was all shot in 4k24p, maybe that's a useful hint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 @QuickHitRecord @PannySVHS @dreamplayhouse iPhone 12 mini.....  processed in Resolve with Kodak 250D and 2393 Print Film Emulations 🙂 PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I was way off. A testament to modern phones, or possibly how much footage can be disguised if it's softened and grained out. I did notice the IBIS in some of your shots, which lead me towards the GX85 speculation. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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