Rinad Amir Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 15 hours ago, jonpais said: Tomorrow we compare the Sigma Contemporary 30mm f/1.4 DC DN in ETC to the venerable Leica Nocticron 42.5mm f/1.2. Please do Jon love your reviews ! jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 @Rinad Amir Thanks! I posted it here already. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 My current setup GH5 42.5 1.2 (Bukeh Beast) 12-60 2.8-4 (Best run&gun weapon) 15mm 1.7 (lowlight dude) Cinegain, jonpais and Henry Gentles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Next week, we'll be uploading my first sample footage from the Veydra 85mm T2.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 That's a wonderful beast, you can just tell from the shear amount of glass compared to some of the other Veydras. It's the same vibe you get when you see the Olympus 75mm f/1.8 in person and that one doesn't disappoint either. @ Rinad Amir: nice trio... or well, quattro! How are you finding the 12-60mm? Haven't found any time to play around with it yet, want to see if it actually blows the Lumix one out of the water or if I should sell it off... definitely keeping my eyes open for a bargain 42.5mm f/1.2, I do love the new style primes! Rinad Amir, jonpais and kidzrevil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 11 hours ago, Cinegain said: That's a wonderful beast, you can just tell from the shear amount of glass compared to some of the other Veydras. It's the same vibe you get when you see the Olympus 75mm f/1.8 in person and that one doesn't disappoint either. @ Rinad Amir: nice trio... or well, quattro! How are you finding the 12-60mm? Haven't found any time to play around with it yet, want to see if it actually blows the Lumix one out of the water or if I should sell it off... definitely keeping my eyes open for a bargain 42.5mm f/1.2, I do love the new style primes! Thanks @Cinegain you wont regret for sec i promisse you its razer sharp plus has ibis its light also and best lens for me! to run&gun (5axis) tho ND is a must ?In day time and in lowlight u u wont go above 800iso with it if thats makes sense? I also had 18-35(utra) and if had to choose between them two it would defiantly be Leica 12-60. Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 PL 12mm f/1.4 actually designed by Sigma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I've read that. Could well be. I'd rather have them bring 'em out themselves at 800 pops or less, rather than in the 1000+ segment. But oh well. How do you find the character compared to the 'regular' Leica primes? Because the Leica prime-look kinda makes me think of painting-like, artsy, warm rendering... whereas both Sigma and Olympus PRO are more cold and precise tools with excellent sharpness, but otherwise not very lively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 @Cinegain I've said many times before, I wish Panasonic had partnered with Sigma rather than the esteemed German company - we'd have excellent optics at a much lower price. But now, it looks like they're having their cake and eating it, too. At least the 12mm is assembled in Japan, and not in China, Thailand or Vietnam! I have to agree, however, the look of the Leicas is extraordinary, and not only when compared to other m4/3 lenses... Then again, if Sigma really did design what is unquestionably one of the very finest lenses in the micro four thirds lineup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Readers might be interested in my brief email exchange with a shop in Singapore, where I'll be flying tomorrow to pick up the Veydra 85mm T2.2. I wrote them, and a fellow named Dennis emails me, saying they carry the Veydras, but he'll have to check stock to see if they've got the 85mm. It's taking too long, so I call the shop directly and speak with a guy named Gary, who informs me they've got the lens, so I go ahead and book a flight for Monday morning. The following day, I get an email from Dennis, telling me they've only got the 25mm, 35mm and 50mm. I just write him back, saying no worries, a salesman is holding the lens for me and I'll be picking it up the following week. What the heck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 http://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-leica-12mm-f1-4-actually-designed-sigma/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrellcraig Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Companies buy lens designs all the time. I think Sigma designed the Olympus 8 Pro Fisheye, the 25/1.8 and 25/1.2 and 75/1.8, Tamron designed (and maybe even built, if I recall correctly) the Zeiss Batis 25 and 85... Leica licensed some Minolta designs (35-70 zoom) back in the day, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 9/24/2017 at 11:21 PM, darrellcraig said: Companies buy lens designs all the time. I think Sigma designed the Olympus 8 Pro Fisheye, the 25/1.8 and 25/1.2 and 75/1.8, Tamron designed (and maybe even built, if I recall correctly) the Zeiss Batis 25 and 85... Leica licensed some Minolta designs (35-70 zoom) back in the day, etc. But this is not exactly the same. Panasonic is passing off lenses like the 12mm as designed by Leica for Panasonic. That is, if the lens was in fact designed by Sigma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Well, at least this is the proof in the pudding that the Leica label on Panasonic lenses is a scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Not necessarily, even if Leica outsourced the design to Sigma, they are most likely using Leica glass and materials... so... It’s like the Leica 35-70mm f/3.5 that was a Minolta design with Leica glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrellcraig Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 2 hours ago, jonpais said: But this is not exactly the same. Panasonic is passing off lenses like the 12mm as designed by Leica for Panasonic. That is, if the lens was in fact designed by Sigma. I think Panasonic has detailed the relationship in various interviews... If I recall correctly, the lenses are designed and built by Panasonic (or some licensor like Sigma), but they are reviewed by Leica through product development and approved by Leica before commercialization. It is basically a licensing agreement with some oversight by Leica to ensure their brand isn't diluted by Panasonic. Really just a marketing move by Panasonic to differentiate their premium brand requiring royalties to Leica and a dash of Leica engineering input to give it credibility and maybe some actual improvement in the lenses over what Panasonic engineering could do solo. Goes both ways... the Leica Q feels like a Panasonic camera, so they probably had a bunch of input and further, I'd guess they designed and built much of it. It makes me wish Panasonic would build a FF camera... a FF GH5 with a short flange lens mount would be awesome. All these Leica, Zeiss, Schneider, etc. branded mobile camera lens modules are probably the same kind of marketing / licensing arrangements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Leica isn’t manufacturing the lens, they are outsourcing their optical design. Panasonic makes their alterations (probably including AF in the design and diff coatings) and leica approves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mayer Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The PanaLeica 15mm isn't too expensive considering it is an above average quality prime. The design is lovely. I haven't really appreciated a lens design before this, so I think whoever made it at least had Leica in mind. I love having the aperture ring. Lost the Leica cap yesterday in a taxi. Maybe I will look for a Sigma one to replace it Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 59 minutes ago, Mat Mayer said: The PanaLeica 15mm isn't too expensive considering it is an above average quality prime. The design is lovely. I haven't really appreciated a lens design before this, so I think whoever made it at least had Leica in mind. I love having the aperture ring. Lost the Leica cap yesterday in a taxi. Maybe I will look for a Sigma one to replace it Having that 1.7 apature is so nice i swear And its tiny light i cannot stress enough how this lens saved me from going above 800iso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosterchen Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Can Andrew or anybody confirm that the Metabones Leica M to MFT adapter works with SLR Magic 35mm T0.95 to achieve infinity focus? SLR Magic seems to not offer their M to MFT adapter for sale separately. THANKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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