Super Members BTM_Pix Posted August 13, 2019 Super Members Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, kye said: Have we seen test images and overall IQ? No but have we seen the price of the Leica version ? The 7Artisans is 3.5% of the price of it Based on my experiences with the 50mm f1.1 and the 28mm f1.4 it will hopefully be decent enough for me at least. kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, BTM_Pix said: No but have we seen the price of the Leica version ? The 7Artisans is 3.5% of the price of it Based on my experiences with the 50mm f1.1 and the 28mm f1.4 it will hopefully be decent enough for me at least. Price looks similar to Samyang 85/1.4 - any idea how they compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted August 13, 2019 Super Members Share Posted August 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, kye said: Price looks similar to Samyang 85/1.4 - any idea how they compare? By which I presume you mean "can you get the booze bottles out and do a comparison with your Samyang 85 f1.4 and the 7Artisans that we all know you will be too weak to resist buying when it arrives" Physically, its slightly smaller and about 20% lighter than the Samyang. For using it on my SL, the overall dimensions will be much smaller as the L to M path adapter wise is much smaller than the L to EF path. And its obviously a little bit faster but a little bit less reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: By which I presume you mean "can you get the booze bottles out and do a comparison with your Samyang 85 f1.4 and the 7Artisans that we all know you will be too weak to resist buying when it arrives" Physically, its slightly smaller and about 20% lighter than the Samyang. For using it on my SL, the overall dimensions will be much smaller as the L to M path adapter wise is much smaller than the L to EF path. And its obviously a little bit faster but a little bit less reach. Well, I wasn't thinking that, but since you're offering! ??? BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 On 8/10/2019 at 10:32 PM, mercer said: RMC Tokina 17mm f/3.5? Thanks, found it for 99 euro in good condition ? mercer and thephoenix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Avenger 2.0 said: Thanks, found it for 99 euro in good condition ? Good deal. I had one a while ago to compliment my AT-X 24-40mm and they mixed perfectly together. I was using the 17mm for traditional wide angle establishing shots, so I stopped the lens down a bit but even wide open, it was pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 4:03 PM, Avenger 2.0 said: Thanks, found it for 99 euro in good condition ? what mount ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I have the Tokina 17mm as well, older copy nikon mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 hours ago, thephoenix said: what mount ? Pentax PK mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 As I’m sure everybody knows by now, at the end of the shooting days, for my film, I get my lead actor to hang out a little while so I can test out a lens. I’m trying to have a lens or two for every one of my favorite focal lengths. The other day, after we filmed a scene, I wanted to give the Samyang 50mm 1.4 another chance and I’m glad I did. As BTM said a dozen times, Samyang lenses really pull more than their weight... BTM_Pix, PannySVHS, kye and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 hours ago, mercer said: As I’m sure everybody knows by now, at the end of the shooting days, for my film, I get my lead actor to hang out a little while so I can test out a lens. I’m trying to have a lens or two for every one of my favorite focal lengths. The other day, after we filmed a scene, I wanted to give the Samyang 50mm 1.4 another chance and I’m glad I did. As BTM said a dozen times, Samyang lenses really pull more than their weight... That is probably the nicest frame you've posted so far... I don't know how much is the lens and how much is composition, gesture/expression, lighting, or anything else, but that is truly well done! mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, kye said: That is probably the nicest frame you've posted so far... I don't know how much is the lens and how much is composition, gesture/expression, lighting, or anything else, but that is truly well done! Thanks, Kye! I appreciate that. I know how important the details of an image means to you so I hold your opinion with high regard. Btw, I think it may be all of the above but it looks like my 5 lens collection just turned into 6... damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, mercer said: Thanks, Kye! I appreciate that. I know how important the details of an image means to you so I hold your opinion with high regard. Btw, I think it may be all of the above but it looks like my 5 lens collection just turned into 6... damn. LOL, sorry! I should also add that I really like the tonality. I can't remember if I've said this before, but there's a certain look in B&W images where the tones have a kind of quality that makes them feel like they're colours, even though they're completely (mathematically!) monochrome. I don't see colours in the images, so its not synaesthesia, but it's definitely something. and this image has some of that going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, kye said: That is probably the nicest frame you've posted so far... I don't know how much is the lens and how much is composition, gesture/expression, lighting, or anything else, but that is truly well done! indeed, if there was a mountain range in the background we'd have to start calling you ansel ? mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_L Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Hi all, I just noticed a little thing and I would like your advice (yeah, I just need to be reassured, I guess ?). I checked the mount of my new Canon 200 f2.8 ii L, that I use with my S1 and Sigma MC21 adapter, and I noticed a contactor is a little damage. There is a small plastic "ramp" in front of a contactor on the lens, that seems to guide the pins on the adapter side. It seems the pins have "dig" a bit in this ramp, to make their way, and scratch the contactor. I noticed this because I wanted to try an Irix 15mm lens, and I couldn't fully mount it (I did not try to force). By inspecting the Irix mount, the same plastic ramp was really damaged, even more than the Canon. Plus, there was a small golden debris lying around, indicating that the irix contactor has just been "dug". I then tried to mount again the Canon 200mm, and everything is fine, no debris, no further digging etc. I also use a Samyang 20mm without electronic contactor, and, of course, no problem ! I have used the Canon for a week, and it works with no problem. Have you ever seen something like that, and do you think it would worsen with time, or lead to "contact" problems ? I suspect the mount tolerance is designed for Sigma lenses, and it may differ a bit from Regular Canon or other manufacturers... ? Thank you ! Ps : this is a macro image... in reality, it is really less evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Geoff_L said: Hi all, I just noticed a little thing and I would like your advice (yeah, I just need to be reassured, I guess ?). I checked the mount of my new Canon 200 f2.8 ii L, that I use with my S1 and Sigma MC21 adapter, and I noticed a contactor is a little damage. There is a small plastic "ramp" in front of a contactor on the lens, that seems to guide the pins on the adapter side. It seems the pins have "dig" a bit in this ramp, to make their way, and scratch the contactor. I noticed this because I wanted to try an Irix 15mm lens, and I couldn't fully mount it (I did not try to force). By inspecting the Irix mount, the same plastic ramp was really damaged, even more than the Canon. Plus, there was a small golden debris lying around, indicating that the irix contactor has just been "dug". I then tried to mount again the Canon 200mm, and everything is fine, no debris, no further digging etc. I also use a Samyang 20mm without electronic contactor, and, of course, no problem ! I have used the Canon for a week, and it works with no problem. Have you ever seen something like that, and do you think it would worsen with time, or lead to "contact" problems ? I suspect the mount tolerance is designed for Sigma lenses, and it may differ a bit from Regular Canon or other manufacturers... ? Thank you ! Ps : this is a macro image... in reality, it is really less evident. that looks to be a fairly decent gouge. i guess theres some mount intolerance going on, or maybe a pin or guide is the wrong hardness, if thats the correct wording. Id be a bit proactive and fire of a email the respective manufacturers letting them know whats happening. it may or may not be an issue. if something breaks later on or the contact wears down sufficiently you may lose functionality and be with out a camera or lens which could be a real bummer. not sure where you got the lens are you able to take it back to the retailer for them to inspect ? at least then you have covered your bases if there is an issue and or things do go pear shaped later. Geoff_L 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 talking about the tokina 17mm here is one still from the short i am shooting these days. no grading yet. shot with the XT3 internal h265 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, thephoenix said: talking about the tokina 17mm here is one still from the short i am shooting these days. no grading yet. shot with the XT3 internal h265 i hope you didn't just kill off the lead actress because that would make for a short short ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, leslie said: i hope you didn't just kill off the lead actress because that would make for a short short ? as far as i know she's still breathing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 and now for something completely different... Just in case the Helios was too modern and soul-less for you! ??? noone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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