TheRenaissanceMan Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 1 hour ago, andy lee said: there are lenses from Nikon in my opinion they are the best as they have apperture rings and amazing glass I like the Nikon look, but I just can't get over the backwards focus rotation. It ruins so many takes. Maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal if I used a reversible follow focus, but I almost never use a FF at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 1 hour ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: I like the Nikon look, but I just can't get over the backwards focus rotation. It ruins so many takes. Maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal if I used a reversible follow focus, but I almost never use a FF at all. I have the Nikkor 35mm f2 and I love it. I wonder how different could the Sigma and Tamron be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, sandro said: I have the Nikkor 35mm f2 and I love it. I wonder how different could the Sigma and Tamron be. Very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, mercer said: Very different. Worse or better? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 38 minutes ago, sandro said: Worse or better? :P Since you already own the 35mm f2 and you love it, then I would stick with Nikon. Grab a 50mm f2 and the 28-70mm and you'll have a great set of lenses to use on the NX1 or any future camera purchase for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Nikon's are great lenses the ais range of primes cut with the zooms exactly Nikon have great glass parity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 the nikon zooms seems too expensive even used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunk Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35-70mm-35-ai.htm http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35-70mm-35-ais.htm Both not expensive, but also not so fast. I have the AI and like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 55 minutes ago, bunk said: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35-70mm-35-ai.htm http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/35-70mm-35-ais.htm Both not expensive, but also not so fast. I have the AI and like it. 3.5 isn't too bad. With the metabones XL it will get down between f/2 - f/2.5 ... Which is more than admirable for a constant zoom. Is it parfocal? It seems it focuses inside the barrel, so I assume the filter ring does not rotate when you focus? I have the Minolta MD 24-35mm and it is a stunning lens, it's like a small set of wide primes in one lens, but the filter ring rotates on focus, so using a fader nd is a pain in the ass. Do you have any screen grabs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunk Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 3 hours ago, mercer said: Is it parfocal? It is parfocal and has no breathing. The AI version has a rotating filter ring just as your Minolta, no idea about the AIS though. I don’t mind it too much as I don’t use variabel nor graduated ND filters. I had some test footage but can’t find it. Will shoot something tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltorrete Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 16 hours ago, andy lee said: Nikon is a better lens very sharp with Aspheric elements ED glass internal focus - on ebay they go for about £300 second hand What model of Nikon 28-70 exactly? please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 You want to get the f/2.8 D (as seen on). That is the Bourne one. Quote Cinematographer Oliver Wood circles the globe for The Bourne Ultimatum [..] the crew “mostly used lightweight zooms that I had specially made from two Nikon digital still-photography lenses, a 28-70mm and an 80-200mm,” says Wood. “Arri in Munich converted them to lightweight cinema-style zooms, and they work quite well. The Nikon glass is brilliant.” Dierken notes, “We called them the Oliver Lenses, and they helped the operators shoot everything handheld with the documentary approach Oliver and Paul wanted. Unlike other zooms, which are either too heavy or too slow, these zooms opened up to T2.8 and were quite light. Arri made the housings in six weeks, and the lenses turned out to be very sharp and the contrast was quite good. [Still-photography] lenses turn the opposite of the way cine-style lenses do, which could have been unpleasant if we’d used a normal follow focus, but with the LCS-3 we were able to just reverse the gears. The lenses worked so well that we ended up shooting 70 percent of the movie with them, and now Arri is making more!” ~ https://www.theasc.com/ac_magazine/September2007/TheBourneUltimatum/page1.php When I was looking for mine they were around 650~700 EUR for a good one. You could get one in less nick, for example one with some cosmetic marks, scratches, little dust and broken autofocus and be able to shave of a couple of bucks of course... but one thing is for sure, even for 700 EUR it's an awesome deal! These are so good that they are a popular pick to be cinemodded (other popular ones: Tokina 11-16mm (which they have started to do themselves now) and Sigma 18-35mm for example)... e.g. G.L. Optics: http://www.glcinemod.com / http://www.cinemaglass.com , Cinematics: http://www.pchood.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=45 , Duclos: http://www.ducloslenses.com/collections/duclos-zooms . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Anyone has the 28-70/75 from Tokina, Sigma and Tamron? I doubt the Nikon is so much sharper, just to see the look how it compares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 If you are in Europe and want the 28-70 2.8 nikkor with a broken autofocus you can PM an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, sandro said: Anyone has the 28-70/75 from Tokina, Sigma and Tamron? I doubt the Nikon is so much sharper, just to see the look how it compares. I used to have the RMC Tokina 28-70 and it was a really nice lens. Very low contrast. I have the 25-50 which is also great. I will say though... The Nikon is better... That is why they used it on Bourne. I get that it may be too much for you... I can't afford one either, but it IS better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltorrete Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 only video, improve the nikon 28-70 2.8 17-50 my current Samsung f2 / 2.8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 If you're going to use it with the Samsung NX1, I don't think there's a more logical choice than using the native 16-50mm f/2-2.8 which is reported everywhere to be superb and will also be great for shooting stills with. No experience with Samsung myself, but I imagine the image being a little more vivid and modern compared to a bit more laid back and classy Nikon. Both will do, depends if you like the look of the Samsung, but you'd be the first I think not to, so... With a M43 Panasonic though, throw on a focal reducer and you have yourself a f/2 hollywood zoom lens with a nice range on it, natively a 12-35mm f/2.8 would get you close, but it has the modern Panasonic rendering. You can throw on a 12-40mm f/2.8 PRO by Olympus but still f/2.8 and you'd have to avoid handheld just as well as with an adapted Nikon. Going all Nikon, so 28-70mm f/2.8 D, 80-200m f/2.8 D, maybe some primes will get you consistency and great rendering and performance. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I already have that length covered, I was looking for something that can replace more or less primes in the 24-50 range with constant aperture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The Nikon ai and ais zooms in this range are great too all f3.5 or f4 and when on a speed booster are supertb they ate a alot cheaper than the 2.8 Nikon zooms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 for low light 2.8 is important though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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