Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 18, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 18, 2014 The official EOSHD forum for discussion of lights, lighting, both creative techniques and the hardware! noone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 at last a section on lighting - painting with light is one of my favourite things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Mols Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 What kind of solutions do you guys use for lighting? I love working with full blown rental vans. But the budget isn't always there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 19, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted May 19, 2014 This is my favourite of the small, compact LED panels with good battery life. I like it mainly for the variable colour temperature control. http://www.eoshd.com/content/9867/switronix-torchled-bolt-variable-temperature-led-light-review If you just want a harsh but bright white light and are shooting raw, so can heavily colour correct the white balance in post then this is a good deal for cheap! This LED light is a total bargain. 30 euros!! pic.twitter.com/DE8zUlZZaH— Andrew Reid (@EOSHD) April 3, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Mols Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 thats great of course. But I am thinking more in the direction of actual lights, like red heads and kino flo's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 if you are starting out get a set of 4 Red Heads and a bunch of LEE gels / diffusion for them , and bulldog clips to hold the gels on the lights. you will also need some Lee diffusion too so you can control the intensity of the lights better dont be affraid of layering up your diffusion too , then adding the coloured gels ontop of the diffusion. You can buy gels / Lee diffusion off ebay cheap get a whole bunch of colours and try different set ups to see what you like. ie try Teal and Amber that is used in alot of films now , amber on the face - teal on the back wall etc or vice versa ! I always back light and have a kicker too to help get edge separation. How much key and fill you use from the front is all down to personal taste and how dark or bight you want the subject. there are loads of youtube vids on this and 3 point and 4 point lighting you will end up having lights around until you are happy with the look so dont think you can just bash up some lights and hey presto ! you use your eye to get a desirable look. Christina Ava 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyvyoo Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Hello guys, I search for a "cheap" LED panel for a talking head interview (filmed with gh3+25mm1.4) and I want to ask you if the F&V k4000 worth the double price difference between the chinese CN600 panel? I know the problems with cheap led's but I see some good reviews for CN600/900. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Well, I had two of the CN600. One of em literally fried itself after four years. That's not bad for 100 quid. I have to disagree on redheads for beginners, simply because the heat and fragility makes them impractical. I'd get LED but yes buy diffusion and half CTO gels in sheets. Also lots of blackwrap to shape the light and reduce spill. Spill and lackof diffusion makes things look more amateur. OzNimbus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Ava Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 if you want to start from something, start from some good books on lighting. 1. 2. 3. 3. nahua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Here's an article on lighting for beginners I wrote about 3 years ago. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar11/articles/light-fantastic.htm I've learned a lot since, but I still think this is a good starting point Christina Ava 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBarlow Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Has anyone experience of the Chinese ARRI fresnel clones. Metal wise they look very similar and I can only think about the rivets maybe being a cause of concern, which may be FUD due to my ignorance. The price is great though http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-300W-2X-150W-Kit-Fresnel-Tungsten-Lights-Video-Spot-Light-spotlight-as-arri-/121345319719?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c40bea327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 they are flimsy and I had to rewire them as it was a bit dangerous!! but the do work fine just not quite as robust are the real thing - still makes the same light , takes the same bulbs edit - oh yeah and the stands are very thin/ flimsy too , so you might want to by real stands JohnBarlow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 if you want to start from something, start from some good books on lighting. 1. 2. 3. 3. the John Alton book is a classic I first read it 15 years ago and it has all you ever will want to know in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBarlow Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 they are flimsy and I had to rewire them as it was a bit dangerous!! but the do work fine just not quite as robust are the real thing - still makes the same light , takes the same bulbs edit - oh yeah and the stands are very thin/ flimsy too , so you might want to by real stands Good tip to check the wiring ;) My old Ianiro RH set need replacing they are fibreglass and tatty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I pluged them in when they arrived and they blew the fuse box on my house!! live wires touching neutral!! unreal so I got new wire are redid them myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Genheimer Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I love me some Kino, TBH. The light out of those suckers is so unique. Soft, smooth and . . . IDK, permeating? (Best word I can think of to describe it). It's like having a cloudy day on hand in a couple tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I love me some Kino, TBH. The light out of those suckers is so unique. Soft, smooth and . . . IDK, permeating? (Best word I can think of to describe it). It's like having a cloudy day on hand in a couple tubes. Me too, I've been tempted to a 200 quid budget kino, no dimmer but switchable banks... if i get it I'll let you know how it is. I've heard the knock-off HMIs aren't worth the danger!! Caleb Genheimer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Genheimer Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Me too, I've been tempted to a 200 quid budget kino, no dimmer but switchable banks... if i get it I'll let you know how it is. I've heard the knock-off HMIs aren't worth the danger!! You mean a name-brand Kino, or a knockoff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 A simplified chines 4 bank, not ripping off Kino, just a cheaper daylight fluoro that takes the osram tubes a similar size kino is nearly a thousand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Genheimer Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 So, same bulbs, cheaper fixture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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