Axel Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I almost bought the a.m. Pancake, because my Sigma is too sharp. Overbid. Will try again. Because it's rather slow, it acts like a fixfocus lens here: The gimbal of course costs 3700 € (in Germany), but there is the Hobby King alternative also ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioskop.Inc Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 This surprised me when i saw it a while ago, the lens looks really nice. Really would like a gimbal of some sort as i'm going to have to film at some festivals & a carnival soon, but need it to be cheap & there lies the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Really would like a gimbal of some sort as i'm going to have to film at some festivals & a carnival soon, but need it to be cheap & there lies the problem. You followed the gimbal thread in the main forum? There is this $ 500 gimbal: Yes, you need to assemble it yourself, but it won't be too hard. I believe the difference lies more in the operator's skills than in the built quality of the gimbal. What steadicam guru Tom Antos did with the $1000 Came gimbal imo is phenomenal (but he also tested some traditional 'stabilizers', some of which I had used myself, and his shots were very good). I dare say most of these gimbals are still ridiculously overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioskop.Inc Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I've been following threads about cheap gimbals on a few forums & I just don't know. You're right about being overpriced, but they are so tempting. I think i might just get a chest/shoulder pad to go with my hacked together mini non-rig thing & then see how i cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I almost bought the a.m. Pancake, because my Sigma is too sharp. Overbid. Will try again. Because it's rather slow, it acts like a fixfocus lens here: The gimbal of course costs 3700 € (in Germany), but there is the Hobby King alternative also ... I loved this, looks absolutely brilliant! Did you shoot it raw or ProRes, may I ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 I loved this, looks absolutely brilliant! Did you shoot it raw or ProRes, may I ask? It's not my video. Good exposure (please, BM, give us a waveform or at least a histogram!) and roughly appropriate WB in ProRes can let you grade the image to match a raw comparison shot. With much less moire and noise. Among other characteristics the raw video appears much sharper. If you read out the metadata, you see that 25% sharpening is already added by default. Take that out, and it becomes as soft as ProRes (but colored moire remains visible). Add 2,5% sharpening to ProRes (depends on the method, resp. the software, with 'unsharp mask' less is needed), and the same shots become indistinguishable. There is slightly greater DR in raw (given you E'dTTR), but are the problems worth it? The clip above was probably shot in ProRes, that's what I suspect always when the image has that undersaturated look. As far as the reported softness of the 14mm is concerned, that's not true, compared to other MFT system lenses, see here. It just appears to be not sharp enough to resolve moire patterns, which makes it ideal, at least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Ah thanks for the tip! I'm considering getting one so it's nice to get tips for use. Do you have any tips for good fast lenses with OIS? I know speedboosters are great for a lot of shots, but I do like a bit of IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msiris Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 How do you feel this gimbal with BMPCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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