jeliza Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I have a 18-55mm kit lens and a Canon T3 with which I shoot movies. I am interested in trying anamorphic DLSR filmmaking. I have already read the EOSHD guide and am looking to buy a lens but need to know: What kind of gear do I need? I read stuff about prime lenses, clamps, APS versus full-frame, squeezing in post and just don't know where to begin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmBrute Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 18-55 is a bit flimsy, so you will need a rig that will support both your dslr and your anamorphic. I use a velbon spt-1. I use a tripod collar that dosn't fit the lens perfectly, so I wrapped the lens in a sock to fill in the gap. Cheapest solutions: schneider cinelux sankor 16c singer 16d 16c will be easiest to use, but has the worst IQ of the three (I own all three). 55mm will likely vignette with most 2x lenses. Also, the front element rotates when you focus on the 18-55 so it is impossible to use a clamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Elkerton Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Hi, Don't use your 18-55 zoom. It's not really going to be any good for shooting with anamorphic scope lenses. Personally I prefer full frame for anamorphic, but I would start by using the camera you have. (APS) Buy a cheap lens like Helios 58mm in M42 mount (M42 to EF adapter) Or Jupiter 85mm. Buy a Sankor 16c or a Kowa 8z (Sankor will be cheaper) Buy a Redstan clamp to hold it all together. Don't buy a cheap one, its false economy. Your good to go. Refer to the shooting guild to see what lenses will vignette on what sensor. You will end up spending all your time looking for bargains and you will spend money. If that worries you, run away now and don't look back. If not good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Or, if you like, you can get the one I am selling http://www.ebay.it/itm/171343697015?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 which is right for your camera (APS), I used to use it with my 60D. it comes with a redstan adapter and you will not go crazy with double focusing. I have used it with great pleasure, with an helios M44 58mm f2 and also with a super takumar 50mm F1.4. It 's a single focus anamorphic, you set your taking lens to infinity and focus only with the anamorphic. No need to struggle with double focusing. I am selling it cos I bought myself a full frame camera and I can't no longer use it. Like Chris Elkerton says "you will end up spending all your time looking for bargains and you will spend money". Good luck anyway, I hope you will enjoy the anamorphic world and join us soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeliza Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Hi, Don't use your 18-55 zoom. It's not really going to be any good for shooting with anamorphic scope lenses. Personally I prefer full frame for anamorphic, but I would start by using the camera you have. (APS) Buy a cheap lens like Helios 58mm in M42 mount (M42 to EF adapter) Or Jupiter 85mm. Buy a Sankor 16c or a Kowa 8z (Sankor will be cheaper) Buy a Redstan clamp to hold it all together. Don't buy a cheap one, its false economy. Your good to go. Refer to the shooting guild to see what lenses will vignette on what sensor. You will end up spending all your time looking for bargains and you will spend money. If that worries you, run away now and don't look back. If not good luck! Thanks! I just ordered a Singer 16d so my next step is getting either a Helios or the Jupiter and a clamp What does M42 to EF adaptor mean? Also, I'm looking to do a mix of both close-up angles and landscapes. Which focal length would work better, 58mm or the 85mm? Do I need a diopter? Are there rings that allow for single focusing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrParkinson Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 M42 is a type of lens mount that screws on to the camera. EF is the name of Canon's mount type. I bought a cheap $1.5 M42 to EF adapter which doesn't allow me to screw the lens in all the way so I would suggest spending a little more on that than I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Elkerton Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Yes Adr is right. A lot of these old lenses I mentioned come in m34 screw mount. Check before you buy though. The adapters to EF (Canon) are readily available on eBay and very cheap. Prob spend a bit more than $1.5, maybe push the boat out and spend $5. :) You chose well with the Sankor! Great little lenses. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Elkerton Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Sorry Singer, same thing I think :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrParkinson Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Prob spend a bit more than $1.5, maybe push the boat out and spend $5. I'm a cheapskate. :D Chris Elkerton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf702 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I would suggest buying the Anamorphic shooter's guide, it helps a lot for beginners. As others said 55mm and up with apsc sensors with a 2x works best. I think 55mm vignettes slightly, you can find a 58mm and your good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf702 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I have a Isco Optics Cinemascope Ultrastar F=85 - 3.35in with the Blue star. Anyone know if it's a 1.5x or a 2x? I can't seem to determine it, since it doesn't indicate that on the lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I think all the isco stars are 2x. But it's not exactly 2x, when focused closely it's more like 1,75 and the strech is always uneven. Take something circular and try shooting it at different distances and positioned differently inside the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf702 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'll try that, cause I also have a 1.33x and it's definitely not close to how my Isco 2x is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Thanks! I just ordered a Singer 16d so my next step is getting either a Helios or the Jupiter and a clamp What does M42 to EF adaptor mean? Also, I'm looking to do a mix of both close-up angles and landscapes. Which focal length would work better, 58mm or the 85mm? Do I need a diopter? Are there rings that allow for single focusing? 85MM to 135mm for sure, get the jupiter, with helios 58mm you will get vignette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeliza Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 85MM to 135mm for sure, get the jupiter, with helios 58mm you will get vignette. SO I should get a zoom lens as my taking lens or just anything 85mm or greater? I've seen videos of the Helios 44 but they don't appear to have vignette... I want to be able to shoot close-ups and landscape shots.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeliza Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 M42 is a type of lens mount that screws on to the camera. EF is the name of Canon's mount type. I bought a cheap $1.5 M42 to EF adapter which doesn't allow me to screw the lens in all the way so I would suggest spending a little more on that than I did. Ok so all together I've got the anamorphic lens, a prime lens with the Canon EF mount and a Redstan clamp to attach the anamorphic to the taking lens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 And a step up/down ring to screw the clamp on the taking lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeliza Posted June 15, 2014 Author Share Posted June 15, 2014 What does it mean when a lens has "coated optics?" Also, do I need any sort of filter, diopter or hood for my anamorphic lens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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