Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Sony A7S is the camera I am most looking forward to in the coming months and although it is a shame it lacks an internal 4K codec, it does promise much improved internal 1080p and 4K HDMI output. Here Yosh Enatsu has used the Blackmagic HDMI to SDI Ultra HD converter to a Hyperdeck Studio deck to record this test shoot in the dead of night.Read the full article here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 looks good - even more choice for 4k on the horizon Xiong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legsgh4 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Anyone want to buy an almost new GH4? Perplex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Ava Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The dead of night recording looks amazing...if only youtube didnt kill it...or maybe its my screen someone tell yoshiro to upload it on vimeo! the setup looks hard to operate...and at what cost? maybe you can get a camera with internal 4k recording with this money?too much trouble for a tiny body in my opinion, but if you have the "madness" and already own some of the setup maybe its a good idea to get the camera.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominik Belan�ić Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 This camera is amazing. The only thing holding me back from this camera (but I'll probably get it anyway) is the fact that it is FF. It probably sounds weird, but after using an APS-C camera, I have a lot of APS-C lenses. I know that it has a crop mode, but APS-C 4K is upscaled if I heard correctly and as far as I know that isn't good :D But because of the way I shoot, 4K isn't a necessity, low light and DR are much more important to me and this camera tackles both of those things, well, epicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varicam Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'll wait for the a7t which I'm sure will have internal 4K, right? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Zaee Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Low light monster.nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Wall Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't agree that the small body size seems rediculous with large lenses/rig. The body is a piece of technology that houses the sensor, processors, and holds the lens mount. It seems like the best approach is to get that as small as possible while still giving the functionality you need/want. For me, looking at this camera as a possible 5D replacement, I'm looking at it as cutting 1lb off what I carry around. So if my overall weight and size are skewed heavily towards the lens/rig that I use, I'm fine with that. Plus the small size here gives many options - you can use a svelte lens in situations where you need that, like a handheld stabilizer gimbal, and use heavier lenses when you want that - long shots on a tripod, etc. Whatever gets that job done of processing the image, in whatever form is the most efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rungunshoot Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The fact that you can see detail inside the lantern without losing the shadow detail in the background is amazing. I'm not crazy about the color in this clip, but you really can't argue with the DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak_heri Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Is it really 15 stops of DR in video? I saw the dxomark tests which puts Sony A7R between 14 and 15 DR in photo but it doesn't mean that it will have 15 stops dynamic range. The APS-C Canons for example have 11 stops in stills but barely have 8 stops in video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rungunshoot Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Regarding the camera vs lens/rig size, you can always adapt some Nikon AIS primes and record internal 1080p to keep the size/weight down for guerrilla stuff. Then when you need to go all-out for 4k, do the rig with a shogun or whatever. I'm sure most real-world projects in the next year or so will be delivering in 1080p or 2k, so a single project could combine both techniques. I'm just curious how the 1080p XAVC-S will handle color grading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Wall Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 There's something funky on the image around and inside the lantern - especially the last shot. Doesn't it look really really video-y? I can't tell what I'm seeing. Almost like it was shot at 60p or something (which I think is impossible for the 4k on this camera). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Wall Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I just noticed in the test shot that he's set to 1/60, implying that he shot at 30p. Maybe that's what I'm seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 9, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2014 The fact that you can see detail inside the lantern without losing the shadow detail in the background is amazing. I'm not crazy about the color in this clip, but you really can't argue with the DR. Yes the dynamic range looks incredibly filmic. The way it handles the highs and lows... amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Crazy ISO abilities! That's amazing... let's hope it's usable when we see it without YouTube compression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 9, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2014 Regarding the camera vs lens/rig size, you can always adapt some Nikon AIS primes and record internal 1080p to keep the size/weight down for guerrilla stuff. Then when you need to go all-out for 4k, do the rig with a shogun or whatever. I'm sure most real-world projects in the next year or so will be delivering in 1080p or 2k, so a single project could combine both techniques. I'm just curious how the 1080p XAVC-S will handle color grading. Hopefully one day we will get a 4K Ninja Star. Just an improvement to the mounting of a larger monitor would be handy... I don't like spidery arms and top heavy rigs for handheld, so putting the monitor on top of a cage or on the hotshoe is a no-go for me. I'll be coming up with a different rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rungunshoot Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Hopefully one day we will get a 4K Ninja Star. Just an improvement to the mounting of a larger monitor would be handy... I don't like spidery arms and top heavy rigs for handheld, so putting the monitor on top of a cage or on the hotshoe is a no-go for me. I'll be coming up with a different rig. What about your BMPCC rig? As I recall you had a good minimalist cage for that camera. You think you could rig something similar for a7s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The fact that you can see detail inside the lantern without losing the shadow detail in the background is amazing. I'm not crazy about the color in this clip, but you really can't argue with the DR. I do wonder how the camera would handle the kinds of high-motion footage I've seen you shoot. Previous reports express concerns regarding the jello. Still, carrying two or even three cameras around on a shoot these days is a heck of a lot easier than it was carrying just one around in the past, so I'm not put off totally by certain limitations when the payoff is of such high value. For my travel shooting gigs, a GH4, EM-D, and an A7s can live together in the same backpack with a few lenses. I could make that work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Weston Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Is it really 15 stops of DR in video? I saw the dxomark tests which puts Sony A7R between 14 and 15 DR in photo but it doesn't mean that it will have 15 stops dynamic range. The APS-C Canons for example have 11 stops in stills but barely have 8 stops in video. It won't have that DR unless the video is raw. It'll be really good though, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioskop.Inc Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 That's some serious crazy low light shit & it looks just fine - now did they leave it in s-log or did they grade it? Was it me or did they blow the highlights, sorry blacks in the last ISO test! The only thing that troubles me is if the Jello is really nasty, then the lowlight capablities will just be a gimmick for video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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