Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 25, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2014 Source: Trusted Reviews So far, so predictable. Like the Sony A7R the D810 will feature 1080/60p. And you may as well stop reading now! For all the claim to 'go after video pros' after the dramatic improvement we saw with the D800, the new D810 does the absolutely minimum to excite us. I really don't see the point of buying one, especially with the A7S release next week! I do currently have a Nikon D600 which satisfies my needs for stills and Nikon lenses. Video is terrible on that too. I think Nikon really need to up their game. I don't feel the need to add much more information at this time. Check back later for the official announcement and sample videos.Read the full article here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musty Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 You sound so excited about this camera Andrew :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 25, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2014 I am overflowing with glee. Xiong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musty Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Salivating I bet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Weston Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Killer stills camera, but at 36mp it's sort of a lost cause for high end video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husah Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Too many pixels to do full sensor readout at 30 fps. The video camera only needs 12 MP for 4K like A7s. It's a conflict between still and video requirment. There will always be cameras that target still photographers i(50MP in a couple of years, if not next year). You can't expect Nikom to give up still customers. Zach Ashcraft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 25, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted June 25, 2014 Killer stills camera I had one for a week for stills. Sent it back. Ergonomic issues and preferred the 5D Mark III. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Lol.. (Clearing chest)... "F$&k Nikon. That is all." Comment on the forum. Andrew Reid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ma Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm guessing it'll have 85MB raw files....imagine working with those kind of raw files at 24fps when we get to 2030 and everyone is running 16K! Maybe it won't be too bad then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Weston Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I had one for a week for stills. Sent it back. Ergonomic issues and preferred the 5D Mark III. Destroys 5D Mark III DR wise and 36mp flat out kills. At least for static type shooting... I shoot landscapes and easily the best tool in its price range. If you're into people photography moreso, run and gun, then I see the 5D Mark III being more competition. (but no way I'm going back from 36mp... much more flexible files for post processing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt2491 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 There's more to a camera than its spec list, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxotics Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The data behind Derek Weston's post. Like he said, if you're shooting people the 5Ds are fine. But if you want to extract every last piece of usable DR then Nikons deliver. If anyone on this forum thinks Nikon full-frame cameras are bad cameras because they stink at video they are very mistaken ;) http://home.comcast.net/~NikonD70/Charts/PDR_Landscape_scatter.htm Christina Ava 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husah Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The data behind Derek Weston's post. Like he said, if you're shooting people the 5Ds are fine. But if you want to extract every last piece of usable DR then Nikons deliver. If anyone on this forum thinks Nikon full-frame cameras are bad cameras because they stink at video they are very mistaken ;) http://home.comcast.net/~NikonD70/Charts/PDR_Landscape_scatter.htm Sony sensors have low read noise and usually score very high DR at base ISO on dxomark. Most of it this "DR" is in shadow and only matter if someone has underexposed a shot (by three or more stops) while shooting at base ISO and needs to lift the image. There is no practical real difference in real life images when shot with either Canon or Sony/Nikon. In every day regular usage there is no advantage to Nikon/Sony over Canon as far these "DR" numerical graphs would leave some to believe. There are just numbers that in actual practice might be irrelevant (unless someone is constantly underexposing shots by 3 stops at base ISO, in which case they need to find a new day job). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Sony sensors have low read noise and usually score very high DR at base ISO on dxomark. Most of it this "DR" is in shadow and only matter if someone has underexposed a shot (by three or more stops) while shooting at base ISO and needs to lift the image. There is no practical real difference in real life images when shot with either Canon or Sony/Nikon. In every day regular usage there is no advantage to Nikon/Sony over Canon as far these "DR" numerical graphs would leave some to believe. There are just numbers that in actual practice might be irrelevant (unless someone is constantly underexposing shots by 3 stops at base ISO, in which case they need to find a new day job). Ehm no, I guess you haven't really tried. dahlfors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 In my eye there's not that much difference in dynamic range, or color, between a Canon and a Nikon, the difference really lies in resolution. These 36 megapixel images just sing. I have never seen anything like the images I can get out of a d800 outside the medium format world. Megapixels do seem to matter and I believe Canon must have at least one ultra-high megapixel count body for fashion/landscape photographers. After shooting with a d800 every other camera looks a generation behind in comparison. And the D810 seems an improvement in every way. It may even have a good 1080p video mode. We don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 26, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted June 26, 2014 Why not just use an A7R? Same sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 After shooting with a d800 every other camera looks a generation behind in comparison. And the D810 seems an improvement in every way. It may even have a good 1080p video mode. We don't know. We have to keep in mind that the Sony doesn't record 4K either, unless you strap a huge, bulky $2000 external recorder (Shogun) to it. It will be interesting to see how the d810 compares at 1080p. The d810 does have the Expeed 4 processor, which is used in the 7000 series that has pretty decent video, although not at the level of the GH4 obviously. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Why get so upset over this? Nikon cameras will never be incredibly desirable for video, as you can only use their lenses on that mount. We'll always have more flexibility with Sony and canon. Why not just let a stills camera be a stills camera :) maxotics and Cosimo murgolo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bannister Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Sony sensors have low read noise and usually score very high DR at base ISO on dxomark. Most of it this "DR" is in shadow and only matter if someone has underexposed a shot (by three or more stops) while shooting at base ISO and needs to lift the image. There is no practical real difference in real life images when shot with either Canon or Sony/Nikon. In every day regular usage there is no advantage to Nikon/Sony over Canon as far these "DR" numerical graphs would leave some to believe. There are just numbers that in actual practice might be irrelevant (unless someone is constantly underexposing shots by 3 stops at base ISO, in which case they need to find a new day job). We under expose on Nikons to save highlights and can then easily recover shadows or back lit subjects. In real world practice it makes a real difference. I work with a lot of canon fans and when it comes to the raw files out of the d800 or A7R it really shows the weakness in canon sensors. Zach Ashcraft, maxotics and Aussie Ash 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bannister Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Why get so upset over this? Nikon cameras will never be incredibly desirable for video, as you can only use their lenses on that mount. We'll always have more flexibility with Sony and canon. Why not just let a stills camera be a stills camera :) If I buy Nikon glass I can actually mount it on almost anything. This is why I stuck with F mount. Its the other way around if I bought canon glass it wont fit to F mount. F mount is a crappy mount for the cameras but on Lenses its great. I rent out my Nikkors and Fmount lenses for use on Emount, EF mount, PL mount Cameras...Its actually made my whole system very configurable. So with a D800 and Kinemini I can use every lens I own on both cameras. Aussie Ash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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