Kristoferman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 that looks fantastic IMO. Very excited! Cosimo murgolo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Genheimer Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah, no kidding! Where are we at with the whole discount thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah, no kidding! Where are we at with the whole discount thing? I am going to send the list tomorrow to the anamorphic shop and negotiate if that is possible for the best discount price. I will let you know how it goes, x fingers, ;) I am going to ask them if they can provide a coupon code for the ones who are in the list. If any of you have any suggestions please do not hesitate to let me know. Feel free, you are welcome. thank you. Caleb Genheimer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallpaperviking Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Wowsers! That looks awesome! Is anyone able to explain to me what is happening when you get a direct light source shining into the lens? Sorta looks like you can see the inner part of the Anamorphic or something.. Is this just that they are using a lens too wide or is it something particular to the Moller 2x ? I have a Kowa Bell/Howell and a Isco Ultra Star.. O.K, thanks so much :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Garcia Fernandez Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I´ll like to be on that list. Its possible to buy one from Spain when abailable? Thanks Cosimo murgolo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Genheimer Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Wowsers! That looks awesome! Is anyone able to explain to me what is happening when you get a direct light source shining into the lens? Sorta looks like you can see the inner part of the Anamorphic or something.. Is this just that they are using a lens too wide or is it something particular to the Moller 2x ? I have a Kowa Bell/Howell and a Isco Ultra Star.. O.K, thanks so much :) Depends on your definition of "too wide" :) It is a sort of internal "flare"/optical imperfection. But if we're talking anamorphic, optical imperfections are a bit of a grey area (pun intended). It's not too wide, it has image corner-to-corner. But when it gets hit with light, flares in a sort of grey "vignette". Even the "real-deal" lenses from Panavision, etc. can do this. In the land of anamorpnics, I think "everything in moderation" is an excellent rule of thumb. I've seen this optical nuance used both well and poorly, just as I have with horizontal flares. nahua and richg101 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anti12 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 @comurit Rack focusing seems to be not possible with the FM. Nonetheless, count me in for the discount. Cosimo murgolo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 comurit eeeceegee ( to be confirmed) yannis.zach ( to be confirmed) nahua ( to be confirmed) oznimbus ( to be confirmed) dahlfors silvertonesx24 tonydtv ( to be confirmed) valid anti12 bootsie kristoferman Caleb Genheimer Kerrick ker-Bear Martin Julio Garcia Fernandez Hans Punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 @comurit If being on the list enables a discount code on accessories, count me in...as I've already ordered FM lens by emailing anamorphicshop. Cosimo murgolo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Genheimer Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 @comurit Rack focusing seems to be not possible with the FM. Nonetheless, count me in for the discount. What do you mean? Rack focus is the whole point of the FM Cosimo murgolo and Julian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallpaperviking Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Hi Caleb, Thanks for the response back, much appreciated! So with regards to the "Grey Vignette", is it something that you can avoid? That is, if you are still wanting the flares from shooting straight into a light source? I have seen other Anamorphic videos where people have shot straight into headlights and it has produced a clean, horizontal flare.. Or is this something that is maybe more pronounced with the FM module? Or even just particular to that lens/anamorphic/FM module combo? Well, either way, I look forward to more samples coming from this, is looking pretty awesome :) Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 @comurit If being on the list enables a discount code on accessories, count me in...as I've already ordered FM lens by emailing anamorphicshop. Ok no problem, I will ask. Hans Punk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anti12 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 @Caleb Genheimer Maybe I'm wrong but even the fastest focus pull in the last sample footage took at least 5 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So with regards to the "Grey Vignette", is it something that you can avoid? That is, if you are still wanting the flares from shooting straight into a light source? I have seen other Anamorphic videos where people have shot straight into headlights and it has produced a clean, horizontal flare.. Or is this something that is maybe more pronounced with the FM module? Or even just particular to that lens/anamorphic/FM module combo? . The "Grey Vignette" is often called a "veiling flare" or "veiling glare". Often caused by longer bodied anamorphics and/or the size of the front element. Most anamorphic lovers consider it to be yet another artefact that is attractive, watch Any film with beautiful Panavision C lenses flaring and you will often notice it. To minimise or eliminate it - don't point the lens at a bright light source! Or use a mattebox and flag to cut the light from hitting the front inside edge. I doubt the FM module would impact flare character much at all, the only thing to watch is the rotating front - if the glass is dirty or smeared it will create a spinning streak in its flare when pulling focus. Here is a vid explaining most common artefacts asociated with anamorphic, a few "veiling glare" shots shown: Bioskop.Inc, Cosimo murgolo and anti12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 The "Grey Vignette" is often called a "veiling flare" or "veiling glare". Often caused by longer bodied anamorphics and/or the size of the front element. Most anamorphic lovers consider it to be yet another artefact that is attractive, watch Any film with beautiful Panavision C lenses flaring and you will often notice it. To minimise or eliminate it - don't point the lens at a bright light source! Or use a mattebox and flag to cut the light from hitting the front inside edge. I doubt the FM module would impact flare character much at all, the only thing to watch is the rotating front - if the glass is dirty or smeared it will create a spinning streak in its flare. Here is a vid explaining most common artefacts asociated with anamorphic, a few "veiling glare" shots shown thank you, I found it very interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnVid Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Vimeo on my machine aint too good, so it was jerky but seemed to speed up on the focus pulls making it look like a speed ramp, I kept going back but always the same result, the grey vignette looked more like a gold vignette, but as its the moller it cant be, I would expect less of that the more zoomed in, but is this is on a 3x crop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahua Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'd sign up but I want confirmation that this works on a Bell & Howell Kowa 8Z. I don't want to have to buy another anamorphic for this to work on. Also more pictures of it on different anamorphics like they claim it'll work on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'd sign up but I want confirmation that this works on a Bell & Howell Kowa 8Z. I don't want to have to buy another anamorphic for this to work on. Also more pictures of it on different anamorphics like they claim it'll work on. Ok, no problem, I'll ask. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannis.zach Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'm in as I've said already, I like the test results, just a note: when they made the first copies of their VM 1.5x anamorphic, I bought one and the results weren't so good. Hopefully, the second/recent/newest example that they made, was much better... So, based on this experience, I'm not sure if in the (not far from now) future, they will make an even better copy of the FM too. And all of us who will buy the first examples will run to sell them so to buy the evolution of the first FM examples... Just my thoughts ;) valid and Cosimo murgolo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 I'm in as I've said already, I like the test results, just a note: when they made the first copies of their VM 1.5x anamorphic, I bought one and the results weren't so good. Hopefully, the second/recent/newest example that they made, was much better... So, based on this experience, I'm not sure if in the (not far from now) future, they will make an even better copy of the FM too. And all of us who will buy the first examples will run to sell them so to buy the evolution of the first FM examples... Just my thoughts ;) I hope this won't be the case Yannis, thank you for reporting your experience. I am just going to see if they will provide us a discount coupon, afterwards each of us can make their last decision to buy or not. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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