Daniel Acuña Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What do you recommend? It would be great to have fast lenses, I don't know yet if I am going to buy a speedbooster because they are quite expensive. For the budget, the less the better. Please also consider that I live in France and buying vintages lenses is not as easy as in the United Sates. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If you're talking about full frame vintage lenses there aren't too many cheap options below 24mm, which is 70mm on the BMPCC! So for vintage that basically leaves C-mount, which unless you go with CCTV stuff don't really work out that cheap in general. I really like what I've seen of the Kiev 16u set (12mm, 20mm & 50mm, all f2.0) which can be found for about $250. They are sharp but have a LOT of 'character', so not much good for critical work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This is one of my favourite things shot with the Blackmagic Lenses used included a Meteor 5-1 17-69mm f1.9 which seems to be his main lens of choice. utsira and Cosimo murgolo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Pentax a110 lenses. Fun, good, and cheap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_Auto_110 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Gentles Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Nikon AIS lenses, Canon FD, Yashica, Carl Zeis(Jena, Flektagon, Pancolar, Biometar) are all superb with that classic vintage look too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Keep in mind that you will need the Metabones Pocket Speed Booster to use SLR lenses for normal focal lengths. An 28mm lens becomes a normal lens with the Pocket Speed Booster; the Nikon Ai-s 28mm/2.8 or the Sigma 30mm/1.4 are fantastic choices for this purpose. If you want a real vintage cinema lens, I highly recommend the Cooke Kinetal 17.5mm/1.8 along with an Arri-S to MFT adapter. This will cost you ca. $500-600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioskop.Inc Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Meteor 5-1 is v.nice, but it'll vignette until 25mm on the BMPCC. If budget minded, get an RJ focal reducer for the meantime - it'll get you to a M4/3-ish crop factor. If not decide whether to get the Nikon (or another Mount) or EF Speedbooster - the Nikon/Other mount versions are cheaper, but the EF will allow you to use more lenses. Nikon, Canon FD & Yashica - all can be had quite cheap & are excellent (I prefer the Nikon ai-s lenses out of this bunch). The Russain lenses (normally M42) are lovely, but not always fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froess Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 anyone has tried the cooke kinetal's and can provide some samples? got very curious to the see them with a digital camera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froess Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 shit already found some samples on youtube, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Here are two videos I shot with the Kinetal (mostly the 17.5mm, some shots also with a run-down copy of the 12mm): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froess Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 thanks cantsin, what's your thought's on the lens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Love the look of that! How did you grade it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The Kinetals are the most affordable "Cooke look" option. From 12.5mm onwards, they cover Super 16/1" (the 12.5mm however will slightly vignette when stopped down). They are my favorite lenses on the BM Pocket concerning the beauty of images, but I also find that the Sigma 18-35mm Zoom gives a very similar 'pleasant' look. Combined with the Pocket Speed Booster, it will yield more wide angle, better low light capabilities and better foreground/background separation at fully open aperture. The two videos were graded using Tom Majerski's VisionT LUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enny Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yashica ML Prime lenses 24mm f2.8 28mm f2.8 35mm f2.8 50mm f2.0 50mm f1.7 42-70mm zoom f 3.5-4.5 135mm f2.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 All above lenses would be tele lenses on the BMPCC - people seem to keep forgetting that it's a 1"/Super 16 camera. You need 14-17mm for a normal focal length, 8-12mm for wideangle, 24-35mm for standard tele, and everything from 50 will be super tele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enny Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 All above lenses would be tele lenses on the BMPCC - people seem to keep forgetting that it's a 1"/Super 16 camera. You need 14-17mm for a normal focal length, 8-12mm for wideangle, 24-35mm for standard tele, and everything from 50 will be super tele. Did not think of that would the case be same with black magic cinema camera 4k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quirky Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 When I've got more time (and actually get on with it) I'll start playing with my impulse buy, a 2/58mm Helios. (A Russian Biotar copy) The obvious downside being the fact that it'll be a 174mm (~162mm) equivalent telephoto lens as is, and either a 85mm (w/ Speed booster for BMPCC) or a 116mm (regular mFT booster) equivalent tele with a focal reducing adapter. Unless a telephoto lens is just what you need, out in the wild, for example. But on the plus side, it's a fully manual m42 lens with no mechanical coupling to the camera body to move the aperture blades. Which means that apart from the regular aperture ring it has a separate aperture control dial that was used to stop down the lens quickly before taking the shot, and that dial has no clicks. In short, it's a poor man's cine lens. It may have a slight colour cast, but I'll see if that's more annoying than just "character." Stills shot with it don't look too bad. Another plus is the low price. Anything from about $35 to $95. If you're interested in getting one, make sure you'll get the right type, the one with the separate aperture control dial, and not the one with an aperture control pin on the screw mount end of the lens. There are both types in circulation, although they're optically identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Century Optics make a very nice x0.7 wide adapter that can fit on the front of your helios 58mm making it wider with no visable loss in IQ I am a big fan of glass with the same look and colour tinge Quirky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I second the suggestion of the Kinetals. they've gone up a little recently, but are still cost effective. as are the Schneider 16mm lenses in arri standard mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The Helios 58mm is a wonderful lens that can often be found on fleamarkets for less than $20. But on the BMPCC, it will be either a long tele lens when mechanically adapter or a portrait tele lens with a focal reducer. In the latter case, it would require the Canon EF Pocket Speed Booster in combination with a M42-to-EF lens mount adapter (since M42 lenses cannot be adapted to the Nikon mount Pocket Speed Booster). Its focal length would then still be 33mm, twice as much as a normal lens for the BMPCC. Even with the a Century 0.7x adapter on top of this lens combination, it would remain at a portrait focal length of 24mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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