Super Members BTM_Pix Posted March 23, 2023 Super Members Share Posted March 23, 2023 It apparently will be called the ZV-E or ZV-E1 and seems to essentially be an A7Siii in the rangefinder-ish body of the A7c. The following specs are from rumour sites so take with a pinch of salt but if this is accurate then it will be an interesting release. 12MP sensor from the Sony a7s III 4k 60p and 4k 120p video (no crop) Max ISO of 409,600 No pixel binning AF from a7R V, but it has even better detection New AI features Priced expected to be under $2,500 4k 120p could come later with a firmware update SRV1981 and majoraxis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Sounds bonkers good. Of course being a Sony, it won’t have any ‘pro’ video features, but that spec in a ZV1 size body?! It will also have the inevitable side hinge screen but if it had a tilt… Mechanical or electronic only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Wonder how it will handle thermal issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 23, 2023 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2023 Sounds like it'll sit between the A7C and FX3. Probably the A7C form factor but no EVF? Not expecting a mechanical shutter. I reckon they will go all electronic like Sigma Fp and FX30. Would prefer if they give it a similar body and ergonomics to FX3 and FX30, but it being more a ZV range vlogging camera I expect it to be more of a rebadged A7C with the A7S III sensor. pat and Kisaha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Oh, A7C body? I thought ZV1… Well that is the FX30’s lunch eaten then 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Sounds like it'll sit between the A7C and FX3. Probably the A7C form factor but no EVF? Not expecting a mechanical shutter. I reckon they will go all electronic like Sigma Fp and FX30. Would prefer if they give it a similar body and ergonomics to FX3 and FX30, but it being more a ZV range vlogging camera I expect it to be more of a rebadged A7C with the A7S III sensor. That will be. Still amazing that they will offer the A7sIII sensor.. There is a crazy rumor also "A7sIV will be announced in Q3/Q4 2023 6k sensor that offers raw video and oversampled 4k video with no crops The highest dynamic range ever on any alpha camera" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPNS Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Kisaha said: The highest dynamic range ever on any alpha camera" Aka the most noise reduction we’ll use in a camera that you can’t turn off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 23, 2023 Administrators Share Posted March 23, 2023 Well the A7S III has been out a while now hasn't it? Is it 3 years? Crazy. So they're not exactly putting the latest tech in it. You can get a used A7S III for around $3K too don't forget, although $2500 for this new is a very decent deal if it turns out to be ergonomically well designed and with some new advances. A7S IV I am sure will be 8K not 6K. The current sensor in the A7S3 is already actually a quad bayer, I think it is 48 megapixels binning to 12. They'll probably use the same sensor! Just open up the 8K mode and keep the 12 megapixel as a 4K mode / low light mode. They could also do a HDR trick with quad bayer. As is already present on smartphones with quad bayer sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I guarantee you this will have substantial Sony cripple hammer. It's a ZV series aimed at Vloggers. So what crippling to expect? No EVF, no IBIS, no fan, no 10-bit, no S-Log, no dual card slot. There is simply no way Sony is releasing an A7S3/FX3 in a A7C body for $2500. Kisaha, Rivhop and SRV1981 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurtlandPhoto Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Django said: There is simply no way Sony is releasing an A7S3/FX3 in a A7C body for $2500. Agreed. Too much to cannibalize there. Even with the ver 2 firmware, the FX3 is still too close to the A7siii for Sony to leapfrog it. Anything that affects the A7siii will also affect the FX3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 And just as expected here is the first major Sony cripple hammer spec: Some testers also gave me a first feedback on this camera: New ZV-E1 E-mount camera is based on the Sony As7III Same A7sIII 12 Megapixel sensor 4k60 & 4k 120 (no crop). But it appears 120p might be coming later via firmware update no pixel binning 409k ISO AF from a7r V but it has even better detection Body overheats a lot at the moment Lots of new AI features, very innovative Similar body style of the ZV-E10, but in the size of the Sony A7c and with some FX3 elements Price slightly below $2,500 Announcement on March 29, 3pm London time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 SAR adds on his YT channel: "a very plasticky feeling, not at all high-end FX3 feeling". This is just the start, there will be more crippling, I guarantee you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Django said: SAR adds on his YT channel: "a very plasticky feeling, not at all high-end FX3 feeling". This is just the start, there will be more crippling, I guarantee you. "Price slightly below $2,500" 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 i.e. $2499 / 2799€ That's actually super expensive for a camera that overheats a lot in 2023. Vloggers won't care because they shoot 30 seconds clips max at a time. Come to think of it this will be the perfect TikTok camera for rich Asian kids. I bet you the new AI features will be right up their alley too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 bummer, I was hoping for a FX6 with a FX30 sensor in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTheDP Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 hours ago, IronFilm said: bummer, I was hoping for a FX6 with a FX30 sensor in it Yeah that would be sweet, at a lower price point. Never going to happen though. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Django said: Body overheats a lot at the moment Wonder which camera will last longer at 4k60P, the og R6 or this new Sony cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, ntblowz said: Wonder which camera will last longer at 4k60P, the og R6 or this new Sony cam? Dunno but keep in mind the R6 does 4K60p no crop in 10-bit Clog. And for $2500 you could buy a R6 mk2 that pretty much mitigates overheating. And has EVF, IBIS, dual card slots etc. This ZV cam is going to be a hard sell outside of its intended Vlog market. Expect a full frame version of the ZV-E10: SRV1981 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 ZV-E10 sell in troves, at least here in Brazil - I am in a Telegram group that only, in there, more than 70 people bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Sure it was a big planetary hit at $700 for an APS-C Vlog MILC. I just dunno if a $2500 full frame version is what the market is asking right now but what do I know. It's basically the reverse strategy of releasing the FX3 then FX30. Weird. An A7C mk2 with A7S3 sensor would have made more sense imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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