RamblinR Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Doing a talking head in a couple of weeks and I don't own any lighting. Hoping I won't need any but as I'm unsure of the lighting at one place (which is a distance away) I think it best I have some lights in case they are needed. I have been doing some homework. Looking at the Yongnou YN-160, YN300 and YN600 for battery operated or looking at the following (see link) but I have no idea how bright they are as it talks only in watts and I want f/stops, shutter speed and iSO. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301379488501?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Does anyone have any idea of how bright these will be? Are they any good? Would the Yongnou be brighter/better? Something else (not too expensive please) Couldn't seem to find posts on lighting so if there is one point the direction. As I'm shooting m43 I'm thinking I could work with f4, 1/50 and would like to keep the ISO reasonable. Andy had suggested Red Heads but I would rather not have hot lights. Thanks for helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Good lighting isn't about the gear, it's about knowing how to manipulate 'dem photons in an artistic way. Some of the best lighting set ups I've ever done have been accomplished with just a reflector. For reference you can always check out Barry Lyndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 the famous low light scene from Barry Lyndon. was shot with candles ! I don't recomend you try that for your talking head job! haha! I still would use red heads with Lee diffusion on the front of the barn doors that big LED soft box you your ebay link looks very nice , Im sure it will do the job too and its cheap ..try it stick it right behind the camera and away you go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 As I'm shooting m43 I'm thinking I could work with f4, 1/50 and would like to keep the ISO reasonable. Im guessing with one led soft box as the sole lighting source you will be about around f2.8 @ 1/50 sec at 800iso I shot something similar 2 days ago with Andrew Roachford for a commercial using kinoflos and I was at f4 1/50 400iso , but Kinos are abit brighter than a soft box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinR Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Thanks Andy. Anybody else got thoughts on either lighting and how bright the cfl lighting would be? Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I find on talking heads you need a decent depth of field or it looks too arty farty if its a really shallow dof so you need to be f4 at least - so to get f4 you need a good amount of light so you are not having to use high iso (I dont like going over 400 iso unless I really have to) So red heads have the light power you will need. to get that stop .....yes they get hot but they are very good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzBox Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Excuse me if I add a question to this topic, but could you explain me how to "convert" LED watts to fresnel / tungsten watts? For instance, I saw this insanely cheap lights: http://www.leroymerlin.it/catalogo/illuminazione/proiettori-da-esterno/proiettore-tanko-nero-150-w-34292965-phttp://www.leroymerlin.it/catalogo/illuminazione/proiettori-da-esterno/proiettore-yonkers-alluminio-10-w-34950860-p Would they be useful for a cheap set or do I need something more powerful? :) Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ive never had a sucessful way of doing this , they all seem to be slighly different depending on who makes them , I use alot of Chinese LED tubes and they dont really correspond to anything to referance to. So I just get used to what Im using with LEDs JazzBox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo murgolo Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 what about this one Andy: http://www.linkdelight.com/340414505W-Menik-SG-800-220V-Focusing-Redhead-Studio-Video-Light-D-1-Light-Stand-Light-Tube.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Hughes Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I have a somewhat similar CFL setup that I use a lot in tight spaces where hot lights are not really an option. If you're able to get near a window, two 5-bulb softboxes should definitely be able to get you f/4 at a decent ISO. Get one softbox as reasonably close to the subject as you can for key light and put the other one slightly behind him for some back light and you should be good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinR Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK more searching has brought up these CFL lights that seem to be very bright Product http://www.fotogenic.com.au/linco-4080w-flora-6-continuous-octagon-x-2.html Review that indicates that with just 3 globes he was getting f3.5 ISO320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzBox Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Thank you Andy! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinR Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 Another review of the Linco Flora lights. There is a 'Flora Light Distance Chart' about half way through the review that shows ISO, F/stop etc http://www.lightingrumours.com/flora-light-best-continuous-fluorescent-lighting-system-926#.VF1tAUvL5Fw Miraud - I expect a white balance before shooting would fix white balance problems? I don't think I want to work with hot lights. I think these could also be useful for stills photography with m43 gear (good DOF) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzBox Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 How many watts are necessary for a normal interior/exterior work? Could you explain me how to measure LED watts compared to traditional watts? I ask you because it's difficult for me to understand how many watts I need for a set to work with, reading just the specs on ebay/amazon. Thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinR Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Jazzbox ... I find watts confusing also in regard to brightness for camera work. If you click on the link in my post above yours you can get an idea of brightness of these 85 watt CFL globes (go to the table about half way down) Note the 85 watts for a CFL globe is different to a normal globe so you need to take that into account for whatever you are looking at. Maybe this can be of some help. He is using six globes in a soft box. JazzBox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzBox Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Thank you RamblinR! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudopera Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Could you explain me how to measure LED watts compared to traditional watts? I ask you because it's difficult for me to understand how many watts I need for a set to work with, reading just the specs on ebay/amazon. Here is a thread on this topic with links to videos where a guy from ARRI explains difference between various types of lights '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>> JazzBox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 To the OP, I have a couple of Yongnou YN300 daylight. I am very happy with them. They may not be the most colour accurate lights in the world, but they can work. You will probably put a film emulation or CC anyway. If you want the purest skin tones, you should better work outdoors. I also have a soft box with Ikea LED lamps. I work for a meat company and meat needs to be cold or it change colours. But the soft box is a PITA to move, transport, etc. The couple of YN300 with some serious batteries (than seem to last forever) just take like 20% of a normal backpack. To JazzBox, lamps produce lumens, not watts. It also depends what you must do with the light. When they use a lamp to fake the sun, they put a 5-10KW HMI. That's a lot of light! JazzBox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzBox Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thank you!! Until now I just worked as operator with professional lights that a DP puts on the set and when I work alone the only lights I have at my disposal are 1 little LED lamp and 2 work lights :) Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 A little bit of light, placed in the right place, can make a really big difference!!! ;-D JazzBox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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