Don Kotlos Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 It also has XAVC-S and S-LOG2! http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/ILCE-7M2/speclist.html I guess this is the EM1 update that I was waiting for. utsira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoferman Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 That's pretty awesome! Hopefully something like that gets integrated into a newer version of the A7S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 GO SONYYY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenpmd Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ok so the Messiah will not come again. Nikkor and nahua 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promit Roy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 And that might be the one that finally pulls me into E mount. And as icing, this makes my A mount glass useful on E mount... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ooooooh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenpmd Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Although for stils, no minimum shutter speed on ISO is annoying, as are the annoying fiddly little low quality buttons and idals. I am more interested and having to pay more for the rumoured "pro" a9 early next year. I would definately wait 6 months before buying a SOny. Thats why I am selling my a7s (but keeping the lenses) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utsira Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 According to DSLR News Shooter, the IBIS might only work with Sony glass, though it's not clear what their source for that is:http://www.newsshooter.com/2014/11/20/sony-launch-a7-ii-worlds-first-full-frame-camera-with-5-axis-image-stabilisation-system/ Although when the E-M5 came out, I think initially the IBIS was system lenses only, wasn't it? They added support for 3rd party lenses, with the focal length selector, in a later firmware update, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ah that's a real shame. Was hoping I could use it with my Leica glass. Fingers crossed their info is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ah that's a real shame. Was hoping I could use it with my Leica glass. Fingers crossed their info is wrong. No, looks like only Sony lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 No I strongly believe they're not that stupid to only make it work with FE lenses. I think it's going to work with all lenses, especially as ot's shaping up to be the perfect manual glass camera. Mirrorless mount to accommodate anly lens, super easy focusing, big EVF with peaking, IS to any lens, great stills and great full HD video (if it's the d750 video rather than the D610). It also has S-LOG and 50mbps XAVC-S, plus an APS-C crop mode and S16 for C mount lenses. Throw Andy's always suggested Nikon 28-70mm 2.8 manual zoom and you get a state of the art 28-70mm f/2.8 VR on full frame, switch to APS-C to extend to 105mm f2.8, and add a SB to the APS-crop and get a 18-50mm F2 stabilized super zoom for 800$ plus the s16 crop for more reach. The Image Stabilization really makes it even more compelling than the A7s if it has a d750 video image. The possibilites of 50mm 1.2 IS L FD fullframe prime, or with a SB 35mm f1.0 IS L APS-C prime for cheap makes your heart skip a beat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Full press release: Sony Introduces the α7 II, the World's First Full-Frame Camera with Optical 5-Axis Image Stabilization , Sony has released the α7 II (ILCE-7M2), the next in the α7 series of interchangeable-lens models and the world’s first1 camera with optical 5-axis image stabilization designed for a full-frame image sensor. The camera offers outstanding image quality in a compact size and light build, and it carries on the traditions of the α7 series, which includes the world’s smallest and lightest interchangeable-lens full-frame camera (α7R). A 24.3 effective megapixel 35 mm full-frame Exmor® CMOS sensor moves along five axes to compensate for camera shake, providing optical image stabilization equivalent to up to 4.5 steps faster shutter speed of correction2 for still images. Shooting sharp handheld stills and video is now possible under conditions that may have required a tripod in the past. In this and other scenarios, users can enjoy beautifully rendered images from the full-frame sensor with the convenience of image stabilization. In-camera image stabilization also offers sharper images for those using A-mount lenses on an optional lens adapter. 1 Among 35 mm full-frame interchangeable-lens cameras, according to Sony research as of November 2014. 2 Based on CIPA standards. Compensates for angular shake (pitch and yaw). Measured using a Sonnar T* FE 55mm F1.8 ZA lens, with long exposure noise reduction off. â— Main Features of the α7 II World’s first1 full-frame camera with optical 5-axis image stabilization Detects and corrects various camera shake along five axes for still images and video, including angular shake (pitch and yaw) that tends to occur when shooting with a telephoto lens, shift shake (along the X and Y axes) that becomes noticeable as photographing magnification increases, and rotational shake (roll) that often affects shots at night or when recording video. The full-frame image sensor moves to compensate for these kinds of camera shake. For still images, stabilization is equivalent to up to 4.5 steps faster shutter speed of correction.2 Optical 5-axis image stabilization ideal for a variety of αTM lenses3 Handheld low-light shooting at slower shutter speeds becomes possible, allowing for greater creativity and mobility without the need for a tripod. The camera’s in-body image stabilization is therefore effective even in combination with E-mount lenses without Optical SteadyShot (OSS). For A-mount lenses as well (using an optional mount adapter such as LA-EA4 or LA-EA3), camera shake is compensated for along five axes within the camera body. Users can thus make the most of the beautiful rendering power of various α lenses with the α7 II. 3 Some lenses are not compatible with 5-axis image stabilization. Verify image stabilization results with live view functionality Monitor the corrected image in real-time on the camera’s LCD screen or in the OLED viewfinder, thus allowing for fine-tuned framing and focusing even when using a telephoto or macro lens. Speedy, accurate autofocus with Fast Hybrid AF Wide AF coverage with the employment of a 117-point focal plane phase-detection AF sensor (in combination with a 25-point contrast detection AF points) 117-point focal plane phase-detection AF sensor and 25 contrast detection AF points are placed over a wide area of the screen, making use of the superb tracking capabilities of the phase detection AF and therefore enabling clear capture of moving subjects that might otherwise evade focus. 30% faster AF responsiveness4 A more advanced algorithm is used to detect the subject position, enabling optimal lens drive. In a variety of scenarios, autofocus is very responsive – 30% faster than in previous models.4 1.5 times the tracking ability of previous models4 with an improved motion-prediction algorithm An improved, original Sony algorithm for the prediction of moving bodies results in a 1.5 times improvement in performance in tracking a subject and predicting its next movement. Additionally, AF and automatic exposure (AE) continue to track the subject during high-speed continuous shooting (up to 5 fps), so that a sudden movement or expression of the subject is never missed. Finally, greatly improved tracking ability and subject capture are made possible through the advances in image analysis technology with “lock-on AF,†a feature that optimizes focusing on the subject in accordance with its size. 4 Compared to the α7. Based on Sony’s internal metrics. Superior image quality and enriched video recording functionalities with the full-frame sensor and BIONZ XTM image processing engine 35 mm full-frame Exmor CMOS sensor for high resolution and sensitivity, with minimal noise The camera is equipped with a full-frame Exmor CMOS image sensor with approximately 24.3 effective megapixels. High resolution and larger pixels enhance sensitivity and reduce image noise to release the full potential of lens’ optical performance. Images are rendered beautifully and bokeh effects attainable only with full-frame sensors become possible. BIONZ X image processing engine for superb detail and natural textures, less noise Loaded with an advanced BIONZ X image processing engine. The fast processing enabled by this engine enhances images in several ways, through “detail reproduction technology,†which recreates natural-looking textures even in the minute details of an image; “diffraction-reducing technology,†which prevents loss of detail when aperture stopped down; and “area-specific noise reduction,†which greatly reduces noise while maintaining exceptional detail and texture even under low light conditions such as nighttime and indoors. Supports high bit rate XAVC-S recording In addition to recording in AVCHD Ver. 2.0 Full HD (1920×1080) 60p (50p)/60i (50i)/24p, the camera records in XAVC-S, a consumer format derived from the professional XAVC® format.5 This offers outstanding Full HD video quality at a high bit rate of 50 Mbps. Long GOP compression is used, targeting differences between frames, along with the MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 codec for video. Regarding audio recording, linear PCM is used and files are saved in the MP4 format. 5 XAVC-S recording requires an SDXC memory card rated at Class 10 or higher. Full-featured video recording that suits professional workflows Picture profiles enable convenient in-camera tone adjustment. The α7 II also supports the S-Log26 gamma function, which preserves a wide dynamic range, and a wide S-Gamut mode. Other features include Time Code/User Bit (useful in editing), Rec Control (for synced recording with compatible external recorders), marker display/settings, and dual video recording. 6 S-Log2: Original Sony gamma curve designed for HDR recording. Even under conditions when detail would otherwise be lost in highlights or shadows, images can be edited to recover detail. Enhanced usability and reliability Refined usability Grip shape and height keep the camera steady even when using a large telephoto lens. The shutter button has been shifted toward the front, to a position that feels more natural. This, along with the button’s increased size, helps reduce camera shake. Shooting comfort and convenience were a priority in design. Ten customizable buttons can be assigned to any of 56 functions. The tilting display features a White MagicTM LCD screen for exceptional visibility even under bright sunlight. Sharp, high-contrast XGA OLED Tru-Finderâ„¢ viewfinder for accurate previewing An XGA OLED Tru-Finder viewfinder with a 2.36 million dot equivalent resolution and high contrast, enabling faithful reproduction of setting adjustments, fine-tuned focusing using magnified display or peaking features, and bokeh effects. The viewfinder also allows for clear review of previous shots. Because the camera is fully APS-C-compatible, it displays the entire view even when APS-C lenses are used. Reliability that professionals can appreciate Sturdy magnesium alloy construction of the top, front cover, and internal structures ensures that the camera is both durable and light. The robust mounting structure easily handles large telephoto lenses, heavy video lenses, and many others. Main buttons and dials are also sealed to help keep out moisture and dust, and an interlocking double layered construction of media and port covers as well as body seams ensures greater moisture and dust resistance. Overall, the camera is designed to be used by photographers in any number of situations without having to worry about the safety of their cameras. Quick startup time – 40% faster4 After the camera is switched on, it is ready to shoot 40% sooner than current models.4 Wi-Fi and NFC enabled for connectivity with mobile devices; support for PlayMemories Camera Apps that allow the camera to evolve even further Wi-Fi and NFC connectivity for mobile linking Features can be expanded with PlayMemories Camera Apps By installing an updated Lens Compensation app (enabling the storage of lens information in Exif data, compensation of recorded video, and import/export of lens compensation values), users can manually set correction values for lens peripheral shading, chromatic aberration, and distortion. To learn more, visit the PlayMemories Camera Apps website: (www.playmemoriescameraapps.com/portal/). â— Accessories VG-C2EM Vertical Grip for the α7 II A vertical battery grip designed specially for the α7 II, this grip enhances stability and camera control in vertical or horizontal shooting. Holds two NP-FW50 rechargeable battery packs (not included) for longer battery life when shooting. Highly reliable water and dust resistant construction. Compatible models: α7 II LCS-ELCB Soft Carrying Case for the α7 II A case made for the α7 II that includes a leather body case and lens jacket. The battery pack and memory card can be removed without having to take the camera out of the case. NFC/USB are also accessible while the camera is in the case. Compatible models: α7 II FDA-EP15 Eye-piece Cup Soft replacement eye-piece cup designed for comfort. Compatible models: α7 II, α7S, α7R, α7 ◠α interchangeable lens [A-mount] 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 G SSM II (SAL70300G2) Telephoto zoom lens that brings subjects into sharp focus while creating the beautiful bokeh that G lenses are known for. Ideal for outdoor sports and wildlife photography as well as short-range shots from as close as 1.2 m. Also suited for portrait and tele-macro shooting such as floral photography. Nano AR coating minimizes flare and ghosting from reflections within the lens to improve rendering performance. Approximately 4x faster AF tracking than the current lens model SAL70300G. Moisture and dust resistant design. â—Main specifications Model Name α7 II (ILCE-7M2) Lens mount E-mount Image sensor Image sensor 35mm full frame (35.8 x 23.9mm), Exmor CMOS sensor Number of pixels (effective) Approx. 24.3 megapixels Lens mount E mount Recording format Still images JPEG (DCF Ver. 2.0, Exif Ver. 2.3, MPF baseline compliant), RAW (Sony ARW 2.3 format) Movies XAVC S / AVCHD format Ver. 2.0 compliant / MP4 Movie functions Picture Profile Picture Profile (Off/1-7, Black Level, Gamma (Movie, Still, Cine1-4, ITU709, ITU709 [800%], S-Log2), Black Gamma, Knee, Color Mode, Saturation, Color Phase, Color Depth, Detail, Copy, Reset) Other Time Code/User Bit, Rec Control, Auto Slow Shutter, Dual Video Rec, Marker Setting Clean HDMI output 1920 x 1080 (60p (50p) / 60i (50i) / 24p) YCbCr 4:2:2 8bit/RGB 8bit Media Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick PRO-HG Duo, Memory Stick XC-HG Duo, SD memory card, SDHC memory card (UHS-I compliant), SDXC memory card (UHS-I compliant) Focus system Type Fast Hybrid AF (phase-detection AF/contrast-detection AF) Focus point Full frame: 117 points (phase-detection AF) / APS-C: 99 points (phase-detection AF) /25 points (contrast-detection AF) Sensitivity range EV -1 to EV 20 (at ISO 100 equivalent with F2.0 lens attached) Exposure control Metering type 1200 zone-evaluative metering ISO sensitivity (Recommended Exposure Index) Still images: ISO 100-25600 (ISO 50/64/80 expandable), AUTO (ISO 100-6400, selectable lower limit and upper limit), Multi Frame NR (expandable up to ISO 51200) Movies: ISO 200-25600 equivalent, AUTO (ISO 200-6400) Shutter Shutter speed Still images: 1//8000 to 30 sec., Bulb Movies: 1/8000 to 1/4 sec. Electronic front curtain shutter Yes (On / Off) SteadyShot INSIDE (image stabilization) Image Sensor-Shift mechanism with 5-axis compensation (Compensation depends on lens specifications) 4.5 steps (Based on CIPA standard. Pitch/yaw shake only. With Sonnar T* FE 55mm F1.8 ZA lens mounted. Long exposure NR off.) Drive Continuous shooting speed*1 Hi: Max. approx. 5fps, Low: Max. approx. 2.5fps No. of recordable frames (approx.) during continuous shooting*1 Continuous shooting Hi: 77 frames/25 frames (RAW) Viewfinder Type Electronic viewfinder (XGA OLED Tru-Finder) Total number of dots 2,359,296 dots Field coverage 100% Magnification Approx. 0.71x (with 50mm lens at infinity, -1m-1 diopter) LCD screen Type 7.5cm (3.0 type) TFT drive Total number of dots 1,228,800 dots Adjustable angle Up approx. 107 degrees, down approx. 41 degrees Audio Microphone Built-in stereo microphone Speaker Built-in, monaural Interface Multi interface shoe, HDMI micro connector (Type-D), Microphone terminal (3.5mm Stereo minijack), Headphone terminal (3.5mm Stereo minijack), Multi / Micro USB Terminal Wireless LAN (built-in) Wi-Fi Compatible, IEEE802.11b/g/n (2.4GHz band) NFC NFC Forum Type 3 Tag compatible PlayMemories Camera Apps Yes Battery Rechargeable battery pack NP-FW50 Weight Approx. 599g (with battery and Memory Stick PRO Duo), approx. 566g (body only) Dimensions (W x H x D, CIPA compliant) Approx. 126.9 x 95.7 x 59.7mm Operating temperature 0-40°C *1 Varies according to shooting conditions or memory card used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Surely it must work with legacy lenses? That's most of the point... if not I am disappoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Well good news: You can manually set FL for IBIS, which implies that it should work with non native glass too.http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1466/1462/original.jpg?w=600&h and From Sony website, on 5-axis IS: "When using a third-party mount adapter, performance, functionality and operation are not guaranteed and Sony will take no responsibility if a malfunction occurs." It will work like the Em1 with all lenses and in video mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxotis70 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 according to this , it will have IBIS for all lenses.... http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20141120_676968.html Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Now the BIG QUESTION is does this camera has the same video quality (except from XAVC & slog2) as D610 and A7, or does it have the sensor and video quality of D750 ??? If it is D750 video quality, then we have the best world camera for me. Amazing still quality (24mpx full frame 14 stops DR) Amazing video quality (60fps, D750 video quality, SLO2...) 5 axis IBIS Mirrorless and compact Decent price ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Selling for 184,560 yen on Amazon Japan, which equates to just under £1000. Which means it'll likely sell for £1200 here. Not too shabby :) Crossing fingers for good quality video. Also I wonder if Sigma/Tamron lenses for A mount adapted with the LA-EA will communicate the FL properly to the camera so the IBIS will work properly with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Body is 1800 euro in the Netherlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Buying a new camera these days seems like the worst deal possible (unless it permits you to make more money). The A7 is selling for less than 800€ on ebay and it was released only one year ago, that's a 50% price fall in one year... Inazuma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I strongly believe it will offer aliasing-free video, Nikon did it and it's Sony's sensor. Anyway I think this is the kind of technology that changes the way we shoot video and actually does make a difference to the viewer, just like implementing video in the d90/5D, or Dual-pixel AF from Canon, and now IBIS from Sony/olympus. I think the A7 mk II is that important. When these technologies grow they will offer users accurate focus without any work and rock steady footage without rigs or gimbals. It gives us more freedom for creativity as soon we will just compose with camera at hand press record and produce 35mm Hollywood film quality images. On a side note, now we can shoot with a stabilized Iscorama anamorphic. Isn't that cool?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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