Nikkor Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Quite honestly I think all you "A is raw" people must be blind!!! :P I'll put down my video camera for a year if B isn't raw (or at least sell my GH4 and buy an NX1). B doesn't have compression artifacts, but you should return your gh4 for a full refund anyway :p maxotics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levisdavis Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Banding in A, lower left near shadow area, spells the quality of 8bit vs. 14 bit found in B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFrancis Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A is RAW, B is video. There's definitely a lot more detail and sharpness to the upper left, where the barcode is :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFrancis Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 B also has quite a bit of color fringing from the barcode where as A does not. I'd be surprised for a RAW still to have that over a video screen grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted December 3, 2014 Author Administrators Share Posted December 3, 2014 Damn I think I've forgotten which is which ;) This would have been much easier had it been Canon 5D Mark III H.264 video vs 22MP raw!!! Results and blog coming in the afternoon of the 3rd Dec, Berlin time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMaximus Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A looks better, B looks RAW ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I honestly can't tell. But if I had to choose I would say raw is B, simply for the higher colour depth and less banding and more CA, but you could have edited raw to give the A look so B compared to it looks compressed. It comes down to the edit. Anyway it's remarkeable how close they are, identical in real-world terms. It's exciting the the quality of motion is finally catching up to the quality of stills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Lee Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 B is clearly much softer with fringing. A is much better in IQ compared to B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTony Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 B is raw I was thinking what if Andrew is playing with us and non of the two are raw but both are video just a different grading technique is used? :D dahlfors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Pearson Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A is raw,...horrible red outlines on the 4k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglaurent Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A clearly is the raw photo, unless here we have the worlds first photo camera which has a weaker photo image quality than video quality. aside from that, images with only sharp focus in the middle will hardly show the full potential of the camera or lens. a landscape or street with f8-f16 would be much more interesting. plus especially in 4k video, faster movements will show if the image holds up or is falling apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaw Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Either way, the video quality of this camera is incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Orange Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A is the RAW, B is the 4K. You can see it in the color space and the blocking. You can see the extra color detail if you zoom all the way in. B gives the illusion but its not there. On top of that you can see that A does not have the same crop as B. The frame extends wider and such an extra number shows in the barcode, kind of a dead give away that A is RAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I am hoping that A is RAW and B is the video because I like the look and feel of B better. That said I am expecting B to be RAW for the reasons people mentioned - better color gradation, purer white balance, etc... Anyways - looking forward to reading the results as well as the workflow overview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I've changed my mind. Not on the softness and CA, but on reflecting on others comments: B has wider colour separation. And the shadows on the far left B cup are perfectly smooth while on the A cup they merge into solid blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMaximus Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Maybe h.265 is very efficient, but there is much more information in blacks in the still jpeg compared to the video jpeg.BTW, Andrew, the difference in pixel count is such a giveaway )Anyway, a great amusement here ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A is the RAW, B is the 4K. You can see it in the color space and the blocking. You can see the extra color detail if you zoom all the way in. B gives the illusion but its not there. Can you explain more please? I'm mind-boggled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 So many people are going for A as RAW, I'm starting to doubt my sanity. The thing is, most of the reasons given for A being raw are about "image quality" - which is a very subjective thing - and "sharpness", which gets confused with actual detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Damn I think I've forgotten which is which ;) PM me. I'll tell you. Seriously though, will you be uploading ungraded versions of the images when all is revealed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Lee Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 A is macro blocked in the shadows. A seems to contain much better fine detail, more then can be sharpened from from B, B has fringing issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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