cjwilliams0013 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I will be getting this camera for projects at work. I am also in the market to get a system that can handle the H.265 files. Has anyone tried transcoding/editing these files with a current maxed out MBP 15'? I would like to try to avoid getting a desktop because my job requires me to move around a lot. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwhite Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well, if you wan to import it into some NLEs , that may not be realized until now. Since this codec is not wide spreaded. Or you can try some convert apps to help you. I recently have tried a app called video converter from pav, but it just has the Win version. And also the output format is only MP4. Oh, here is a video for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjwilliams0013 Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Because of the H.265 It will need to be converted. My question was more aimed if the MacBook Pro 15in maxed out can handle the transcode process decently or if I really need to go to a desktop where I can have a more powerful machine. My goal would be to stay with a Laptop because of my travel requirements, but if a desktop would be necessary I could manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMaximus Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Because of the H.265 It will need to be converted. My question was more aimed if the MacBook Pro 15in maxed out can handle the transcode process decently or if I really need to go to a desktop where I can have a more powerful machine. My goal would be to stay with a Laptop because of my travel requirements, but if a desktop would be necessary I could manage.Grab some samples and try them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The transcoding works very well - after that depends on your output settings. I output prores xtreme (probably 4444) and the mbpr struggles with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 10, 2015 Administrators Share Posted January 10, 2015 What year of Macbook Pro 15?2013/14 Retina will work fine. It's CPU dependant and these have not got much faster in the last few years. You'd need to go to a Mac Pro to notice any significant improvement.Download iFFMPEG, grab some H.265 files from the NX1 and give it a go.If it's too slow then remember you'll need a pretty significant desktop workstation to go any faster so don't be too hard on it.I usually transcode over night if I have a lot of material to get through, rather than wait for the progress bar to tick along in front of me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 10, 2015 Administrators Share Posted January 10, 2015 The transcoding works very well - after that depends on your output settings. I output prores xtreme (probably 4444) and the mbpr struggles with it.That's totally overkill doing it to ProRes 4444.Use a 1 pass encoding to ProRes LT! Rudolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Andrew, thats what I thought until I saw some minor improvement in macroblocks.I'll run a few comparison test when I have time :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Macroblocking is so annoying on my family and friends videos... I always work with tiff sequence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjwilliams0013 Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 What year of Macbook Pro 15?2013/14 Retina will work fine. It's CPU dependant and these have not got much faster in the last few years. You'd need to go to a Mac Pro to notice any significant improvement.Download iFFMPEG, grab some H.265 files from the NX1 and give it a go.If it's too slow then remember you'll need a pretty significant desktop workstation to go any faster so don't be too hard on it.I usually transcode over night if I have a lot of material to get through, rather than wait for the progress bar to tick along in front of me!!I would be buying it new so it would be the most recent 2014 version. Its a shame intel has abandoned their pro chipsets for mobile and low power, but I think you are right Andrew. I will test some clips and let it do the work overnight, the next step up from the MBPr would be the Mac Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozone Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The new retina iMac is inbetween. It's even faster in some tasks then some of the Mac pros and gives u an amazing screen. http://barefeats.com/imac5k.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 But the GPU is not great :/ However I have to say I'm really hesistating in getting this thing, and then sell it for a new mac pro when Apple updates their line up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GXAlan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 That's totally overkill doing it to ProRes 4444.Use a 1 pass encoding to ProRes LTI then tried H265->ProRes 422 HQ using ffmpeg. That's been the best workflow for me so far, but you definitely get some weird artifacts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYFBuDUbVaQ or https://vimeo.com/116520230If you look at 2:19, there's a dark spot in the center of the sun. That gets introduced by the ProRes transcoding. It's not present in the original HEVC or Samsung H264 converted files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablogrollan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I then tried H265->ProRes 422 HQ using ffmpeg. That's been the best workflow for me so far, but you definitely get some weird artifacts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYFBuDUbVaQ or https://vimeo.com/116520230If you look at 2:19, there's a dark spot in the center of the sun. That gets introduced by the ProRes transcoding. It's not present in the original HEVC or Samsung H264 converted files.That reminds me of the "old days" when FCP users had to transcode 5DMKII H264 to ProRes and I heard some colleagues complaining about occassional artifacts due to the 5DMKII's "poor H264 implementation". At the time I was already using PremierePro and never came across them. I suppose we'll have to start the flux condenser and fast forward in time to an Adobe update to edit H265 natively... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 My favorite program for conversion is Photon. http://brightland.com/w/photon-manual/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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