50asa Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 hello i´m very interested in the nx1...as far as i can see the major problems are the rolling shutter effects and the h265 codec. has anyone of you tried a shogun or another external 4k or 2k recording... this makes the camera more difficult - i know, but maybe its worth it...for the jello my only idea is stabilizing - with is lenses and something like a tripod, monopod, mövi-ronin...and a shouldering for handheld camera...but how is the quality over hdmi...possible for broadcast? please share your information on this topic 50asa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50asa Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 no one tried external recording???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted February 19, 2015 Administrators Share Posted February 19, 2015 I tried external recording with the nx1 and shogun briefly, need to do more shooting with it.The quality was similar to H.265, that it is to say very good. However you can edit it straight off the card without transcoding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozim Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 As far as I know (and hopefully I'm wrong!), you can only shoot in 4K when using an external recorder. I don't think using a Shogun with a NX1 makes a lot of sense since it records 4K internally, so all you gain is a really good monitor and you can skip the transcoding process, but I doubt it actually improves image quality. It would be nice to see an improved 1080p mode (less banding, no macroblocking etc) with a way faster workflow when using something like the Atomos Ninja Star though. That'd be a huge improvement. Andrew, would you mind hooking up your Nina Star (or any other 1080p recorder) to your NX1 and let us know if you can actually record 1080p externally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 As far as I know (and hopefully I'm wrong!), you can only shoot in 4K when using an external recorder. I don't think using a Shogun with a NX1 makes a lot of sense since it records 4K internally, so all you gain is a really good monitor and you can skip the transcoding process, but I doubt it actually improves image quality. It would be nice to see an improved 1080p mode (less banding, no macroblocking etc) with a way faster workflow when using something like the Atomos Ninja Star though. That'd be a huge improvement. Andrew, would you mind hooking up your Nina Star (or any other 1080p recorder) to your NX1 and let us know if you can actually record 1080p externally? Unfortunately I tried this, the camera does not do clean 1080p out, I'm hoping they fix this in a firmware update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I'm super curious if the Shogun footage exhibits the same banding in the dark portions the internally recorded footage does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalEd Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Found This says the shogun was used but not the best video to check for any quality testing.So the Nina Star can not be used for HD that sucks i was wanting to get that just for HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50asa Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 thank´s for your answers...i realy like the sharpness-details in 4k and the great autofokus with 16-50 2-2.8 with ois...the downside - rolling shutter (this you have also with 7s or gh4, even worse if you don´t use a stabilized lens) and what you see is what you get...there are not much things possible in davinci, cause of the 8bit 420...so if you want to fix an overexposed picture shot vs countershot- youre in an dead end...prove me wrong...from youre expereience...what are the best and maximized flat sttings?gamma drless sharpness? -3contrast? -6somthing else.... thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Personal Settings:Gamma DR, Contrast -6, Sat +1, Sharpness -8, Gamma +11. Also for shooting I think it's best if you slightly underexpose the image, but that is personal taste.Also don't discount the 1080p mode if you need to cover fast action, it's plenty sharp and the RS is amazing in that mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Geoff, thx for yhe suggested settings. Are they fine also for internal recording? And for stills extraction? What about master black level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50asa Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 he geoff where can u go for gamma+11???? i n my menu dr-gamma...i have color- saturation-sharpness-contrast and huethanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Imo he meant master black level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50asa Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 after al my testing i give the camera back...not my cup of teah265 is ok with me but 8 bit 420 is not enough...sharpness and details is only a part of a quality picture...it´s too limitted...have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Will someone please post some more NX1 footage recorded on the Shogun or 7Q? Andrew, I'm looking at you... The WhiteStyle clip DigitalEd linked, as he said was not the greatest, it doesn't exhibit the banding that the internally recorded footage seems to suffer from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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