Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted March 16, 2015 This article is the first in a series. Stay tuned for more NX500 coverage on EOSHD.I am currently shooting with what I think might just be the world's most affordable interchangeable lens 4K camera.The Samsung NX500 in my hands is the final retail camera not a pre-production model. It's running the final firmware V1.0 as well and shoots 4K!Full article - http://www.eoshd.com/2015/03/shooting-with-the-samsung-nx500-a-pocket-4k-cinema-camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 And no peaking under 4K/UHD mode which sucks lol For 4K wide angle under $1000 LX100 is the only camera that can do it I wonder if NX1 get that 200fps option in later firmware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 No peaking in 4k/UHD is a deal breaker for me.But Andrew, if you could make some comparison shots between the NX500 / LX100 (I'll buy one of those in 2 weeks), especially in low light, my thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Lewis Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 What a shame. How optimistic are you, Andrew, that Samsung will improve their firmware in the same way that they did on the NX1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPG Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I had high hopes for this camera, but when I learned that it has no EVF I became hesitant.Thanks, Andrew, for showing us all the other deficits. It saves me a lot of time. This camera is too troublesome for 4k video. The LX100 is definitely of more use.My only hope is that Sony will come with a kind of A7000 that does 4k in a good way, but all the rumours so far have turned out to be false... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Andrew, considering your apparently very good connections with samsung, did you send them our list of requests/suggeations for new nx1 firmwares? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 16, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted March 16, 2015 Yes, all sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mahaffey Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yes, all sent.You should suggest samsung adds a 2.5k mode with the options of 60fps, 30fps, and 24 fps to the NX1 and also a 1:1 crop mode like on the nx500. Both those options would help with rolling shutter and having more detailed 60fps would come in handy as well! Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The cop mode was included in the suggestions. Not the 2.5, but that would be cool if possible up to 120fps, imo. And 240fps for 2k should be possible for the mighty nx1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Oh well, is confirming the bad news. Same sensor as the NX1. But very crippled, if that is something Samsung did intentionally (hope not?) or is due to its cheaper lower end processor, don't know. A little part of me hoped it would be different.... as Samsung went so balls to the wall with the NX1 in not holding back. Maybe maybe the NX500 might be fixed with future firmware updates, like the NX1 was greatly improved with lots of firmware updates. The NX500 is still a heaps better camera than 90% of others in its price point. Just not what I'd hoped. Was thinking NX1/NX500/NX300 could be an interesting set up for next wedding season.But ruling that out now, I think it will surely be GH4/GH2/GH1 for me. The extra price gap for Samsung NX set up doesn't justify the performance jump for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 That silver xt1 sure is a good looking camera. Shame about the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feanorfinwe Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yes, all sent.on NX1 during videorecording (firmware v1.22):i can't switch display/EVFi don't see AF area indicator in EVFi can't use SAF in EVF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Powell Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 The biggest thing I was hoping for was clean 4K HDMI out so I could use one as a lightweight back-up camera for my Shogun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm interested in how the rolling shutter is in 4k crop mode. Hopefully the 4k crop mode will come to the NX1. With Gamma DR not included, it will make it harder to match as a b-camera, if Gamma DR is your primary shooting mode on the NX1, like it is for me.It's interesting that what made the Samsung NX1 so attractive - having no market to protect - is now what is driving the NX500 feature set - protecting the NX1. I hope NX500 sales are slow an they decide to add an equivalent feature set to the NX1 or as much as possible. There is a strong case for a smaller lighter NX1 feature set camera for use with gimbals and drones. They should have charged a bit more and delivered more. Oh well, I will wait to see what Sony (A7000) and Nikon (J5) have to offer in the way of 4K video and features. And with NAB less than a month away - if you don't have to buy right now, I would wait to see what gets announced at the show.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanieux Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 it was obvious they would cripple it in term of features (no peaking, no advanced video settings) and in term of quality (no downsampling from the 6.5k and lower bitrate) to not canibalise their own nx1, they just wanted a position in the entry 4k camera price range at an entry 4k quality that will be i guess much closer to the lx100 rather than the nx1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Some Top Gear-ish analogies... hehe...Is the LX100 full review coming anytime soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'm still on the lookout for a cheap portable camera with interchangeable lenses and an ok slow motion mode. Looking forward to you testing the 720p slow motion quality! If this has 120fps in similar quality to A7S it's going to be interesting. If they unlock 200 fps - even more so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 It's just a bit disappointing that we were expecting a s35 4K or 2.5K camera but turned out to be a s16 4K mode, pocket camera type of size, and it doesn't habe the SB solution that's available for the pocket, it would have nearly solved the entire problem her and made it into a near s35 frame. How much longer is the NX mount compared to SB compatiable m43s and Sony E-mount? if not by a huge amount one could hack a BMPCC into this while losing just a bit on the infinity end. If it's huge difference it's a no go. I did sometimes use lenses with a slightly smaller flange distanve than the camera and they worked fine except for wide landscapes with infinity focus, but when I tried it with a big difference the lens becomes only macro (really good one surprisingly like using an FD lens on a EF Canon with a glass-less adapter, gave me a super sharp/cheap macro lens at 100mm that would cost 5-6 more in EF mpunt with similar magnification)So how big is the difference, is there a potential for haking a Pocket SB without losing too much on the infinity end? and oh is there any Canon adapters that would let ms use IS? (Just IS, U ahoot wide open anyway and use manual focus). And if there isn't, how good are samsung lenses IS (one that's a normal 24-70 equivalent with IS) how much and hos good is their lenses, especially IS? are there fast primes too for beauty shots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanieux Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 a uhd 1:1 crop on a 28mpix apsc sensor make a 3.6um photosite size for the nx500 vs 4.2um for the lx100 so we'll see in the tests if the samsung bsi technology can compensate for a 17% smaller photosite that will bring more noise by catching less light than the lx100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/samsung_nx500_review/There are some video samples there - but not very conclusive, with kit lens and autofocus enabled. The 4k looks a little bit soft - but again, could be just misfocusing. The 1080p footage looks VERY sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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