hyalinejim Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Good stuff, I think that's the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 yeah its critical to get accurate white balance when shooting LOG. Saves you a world of hurt in post ! @hyalinejim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 What do you use? I have an old WhiBal card but it's just a little too small and finicky. I've been spoiled by shooting MLRAW for the past few years where I could set WB after the fact. I'll pick up a Lastolite Ezybalance tomorrow and check it out. Generally I'm happy with the gradability of 4K 422, but I've been finding the colours to be a bit murky and videoish in some shots. Now I don't expect the level of colour separation I can achieve with RAW, but it would be nice if this was due to a green - magenta cast that can be white balanced away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 11 hours ago, kidzrevil said: C-LOG is absolutely amazing. The absolute zero sharpening of the picture profile really brought out the look of the type of diffusion I was using. Very smooth, very filmic look with that deep depth of field of super 16mm and Canon color I love it. Im still getting used to the camera but so far so good. Do these women just walk up to you and start posing? Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, hyalinejim said: What do you use? I have an old WhiBal card but it's just a little too small and finicky. I've been spoiled by shooting MLRAW for the past few years where I could set WB after the fact. I'll pick up a Lastolite Ezybalance tomorrow and check it out. Generally I'm happy with the gradability of 4K 422, but I've been finding the colours to be a bit murky and videoish in some shots. Now I don't expect the level of colour separation I can achieve with RAW, but it would be nice if this was due to a green - magenta cast that can be white balanced away. what PP are you using ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Something like that lmao @mercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, kidzrevil said: what PP are you using ? I do my colour work in After Effects, 32 bit, Rec709 workspace. My effects order looks something like this: Ginger HDR Color Temp (correct or add colour cast) Color Finesse (tweak exposure and saturation) Look Lut Levels (final exposure tweak) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 @hyalinejim we should get a thread going about this ! Hopefully we get enough user support to convince Canon to disable that NR. It would be amazing if Magic Lantern hacked this thing for 1080 raw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bacle Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, kidzrevil said: @hyalinejim we should get a thread going about this ! Hopefully we get enough user support to convince Canon to disable that NR. It would be amazing if Magic Lantern hacked this thing for 1080 raw I think ML devs said that they will not try to develop Magic Lantern for the Cinema EOS series. As teh XC10 & XC15 are part of the Cinema EOS cameras, they will not be a target for ML. (Let's hope they try one day :D ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 @Justin Bacle ah man that sucks bro ! They can at least give us another firmware update to address the ghosting ! Otherwise great camera just gotta learn a lil more about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 20, 2016 Super Members Share Posted October 20, 2016 My guess is that they won't do it mainly because they have no idea how at this point. Same reason why the EOS-M3 never will get ML, it doesn't have the same firmware structure as the original M. It instead shares the software with the Canon compact P&S cameras. With the 1DC there was a rumor that they had been "threatened" by Canon. My guess is that the biggest reason is because there never has been any firmware updates publicly released for the 1DC. So where would they even start. Unless they did some seriously criminal things to get hold of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 @Mattias Burling that really sucks well hope we can raise enough support for the camera to get them to update the firmware. The temporal noise reduction has to go, it makes the motion look blurry sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It is probably just an artifact of insufficient bit rate for their particular H.264 encoder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It seems like an artifact of aggressive temporal NR. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 On October 18, 2016 at 4:44 AM, kidzrevil said: C-LOG is absolutely amazing. The absolute zero sharpening of the picture profile really brought out the look of the type of diffusion I was using. Very smooth, very filmic look with that deep depth of field of super 16mm and Canon color I love it. Im still getting used to the camera but so far so good. Any chance you could host some of that C-LOG footage? I have been using the c300ii at work and it has a magical color quality. It kinda looks like the XC10 is similar in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: It seems like an artifact of aggressive temporal NR. I honestly thinks its in fact the temporal NR. I don't see any of the compression artifacts I used to see in h.264 codecs with low bitrates @tugela Agreed ! I've been pleasantly surprised with CLOG and how easy it is to grade. @BenEricson here is my first attempt at CLOG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, kidzrevil said: I honestly thinks its in fact the temporal NR. I don't see any of the compression artifacts I used to see in h.264 codecs with low bitrates @tugela Agreed ! I've been pleasantly surprised with CLOG and how easy it is to grade. @BenEricson here is my first attempt at CLOG Cool pans. The color looks great. Love the final Chuck Taylor shot. Btw, it does really look filmic. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Agreed, The last shot of the converse is amazing. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 @mechanicalEYE @mercer thanks guys !. Looking forward to an xc20 or something with like a 28-85 f1.4 lens or something from Canon in the future?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sewell Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Quote Looking forward to an xc20 or something with like a 28-85 f1.4 lens Heh - I think that might reduce the stealth factor a bit! More seriously, I'm reasonably happy to forego a constant fast aperture for the sake of the amazing reach. That, coupled with the IS makes the camera (to my mind) a lot more of a proposition than something with a faster constant lens with a much shorter reach would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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