kidzrevil Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Downscaled 4K frames from the xc10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 On 10/27/2016 at 10:09 PM, kidzrevil said: Downscaled 4K frames from the xc10 Are those both using the same filtration? Highlights are beautiful in both, but the skin tones are noticeably warmer in the second screen grab. hmcindie and kidzrevil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Same filter bro ! I changed the white balance on the last shot and got that effect on the skintones. @TheRenaissanceMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 On October 27, 2016 at 8:09 PM, kidzrevil said: Downscaled 4K frames from the xc10 Hell yeah. These are great. The fringing around the high contrast blown highlights is a weakness of this camera, looks like you are solving it before post. Thought some of this was pretty nice looking. Cool to see real world footage. Lowlight looks nice. Corporate stuff with clean looking colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Thanks ! I love how this camera responds to diffusion ESPECIALLY in Canon LOG. Gonna go back to shooting in C-LOG because apparently it has no color fringing in the highlights like the other profiles. I think the camera is applying a negative gain to the other profiles which is causing the fringing....who knows just a hunch. I have a shoot today I will be using Canon LOG with a new diffusion filter I picked up so fingers crossed :-) @BenEricson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 What diffusion filter did you get @kidzrevil? I ordered a 1/4 Black Pro Mist the other day. If anyone is interested, there's a great comparison video that demistifies the differences between diffusions. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 @hyalinejim "deMISTifies" lmao I got a tiffen black satin 1 & 3. They are pretty good to me...real subtle and gives a natural look. Some people don't like the texture it adds to bokeh but to me it looks good with the deep depth of field from the super 16mm sensor. The black pro mist 1/4 is definitely a good look on the xc10 but I am going to order a 1/8th to experiment. Going forward I am going to only use diffusion with C-LOG because it handles gradation and hold highlights better. Using these mist filters with the other profiles sometimes ends in disaster because of the color fringing around the highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 That's interesting @kidzrevil because at the moment I'm using WideDr because I've found there's less banding in midtones. However, the highlight roll off is more abrupt compared to CLog and less detail there for sure. But does diffusion actually increase purple fringing in some picture styles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 To chip in to the diffusion chat, I have a few tiffen HDTVFX and UltraContrast filters I used a lot with my gh4. I must try them on my XC10. Personally I like these two because they don't add the mist look to highlights but still take the digital edge off. The only thing I don't like is the ghosting they create with in-frame light sources. That's the only reason they're not on my lenses 24/7. I like No.2 strength best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 6 hours ago, kidzrevil said: I have a shoot today I will be using Canon LOG with a new diffusion filter I picked up so fingers crossed :-) @BenEricson Rad. Please share your results! I'm grabbing one of these once a few checks come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Lintelfilm said: ghosting Don't mention the war! Lintelfilm and kidzrevil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 59 minutes ago, hyalinejim said: Don't mention the war! Baassiilllll! hyalinejim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelsinkiZim Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Lintelfilm said: Baassiilllll! Sybillll... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelsinkiZim Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Lintelfilm said: To chip in to the diffusion chat, I have a few tiffen HDTVFX and UltraContrast filters I used a lot with my gh4. I must try them on my XC10. Personally I like these two because they don't add the mist look to highlights but still take the digital edge off. The only thing I don't like is the ghosting they create with in-frame light sources. That's the only reason they're not on my lenses 24/7. I like No.2 strength best. Have you tried their plugin diffusers? Is there a major difference when using them on the lens? Would love to know... However, looking at their plugin prices it might be cheaper going physical. But as far as end results go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Lintelfilm said: To chip in to the diffusion chat, I have a few tiffen HDTVFX and UltraContrast filters I used a lot with my gh4. I must try them on my XC10. Personally I like these two because they don't add the mist look to highlights but still take the digital edge off. The only thing I don't like is the ghosting they create with in-frame light sources. That's the only reason they're not on my lenses 24/7. I like No.2 strength best. im going to say this without sounding like a purist typical forum dwelling asshole IF YOU CAN DO IT IN CAMERA THEN DO IT IN CAMERA!!!! :-D Light has literally an infinite amount of variables before it hits the lens,passes through the filter, the sensor then the 14bit raw conversion. When you do it in post your doing a computer generated idea of what diffused lighting looks like after a 10 or 8 bit conversion. Get a filter and test it out and you will see it looks infinitely better than what you can get in post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelsinkiZim Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, kidzrevil said: im going to say this without sounding like a purist typical forum dwelling asshole IF YOU CAN DO IT IN CAMERA THEN DO IT IN CAMERA!!!! :-D Light has literally an infinite amount of variables before it hits the lens,passes through the filter, the sensor then the 14bit raw conversion. When you do it in post your doing a computer generated idea of what diffused lighting looks like after a 10 or 8 bit conversion. Get a filter and test it out and you will see it looks infinitely better than what you can get in post Got it, thanks! Not assholly at all. Perfect argument: Bullet point... benefit... close. How it should be always:-) Edit: if you worked for Tiffen you would have just made a sale! kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 It was a little assholey... Lol... JK. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, HelsinkiZim said: Got it, thanks! Not assholly at all. Perfect argument: Bullet point... benefit... close. How it should be always:-) Edit: if you worked for Tiffen you would have just made a sale! *contacts Tiffen right away and prays for job* lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Just went through a stack of these filters testing em out on the xc10 All I gotta say is heavy diffusion plus the EOS Standard profile is a God send! Im blown away Experimenting with it on my shoot tommorrow....I can't wait to share the results aint no way im sleeping tonight ? That vid @BenEricson posted was shot with EOS standard and that inspired my test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, kidzrevil said: Just went through a stack of these filters testing em out on the xc10 All I gotta say is heavy diffusion plus the EOS Standard profile is a God send! Im blown away Experimenting with it on my shoot tommorrow....I can't wait to share the results aint no way im sleeping tonight ? That vid @BenEricson posted was shot with EOS standard and that inspired my test You gotta give us a taste... Lol. Good luck with your shoot tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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