markr041 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 First, comparing the in-camera (Flowstate) stabilization in 4K 60 with the 4:3 FreeFrame setting using Gyroflow stabilization in post: Second, 8K 24.0P video, complete with that beloved 24 fps motion: Third, a video shot in 4K 60P, complete with moving with the camera (forwards and backwards), the 2X zoom, 2X slow motion (from 4K 120P), and audio. Maybe I will try a night video. I wish it was a sunny day. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Yes, we love the 24p motion and that 8K matches it perfectly... ; ) Your thoughts about your findings so far, hey beloved most-recent-capture-device-release-tester of our own? :- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Looks much better looking than your GoPro samples, you know? In all senses, don't we agree on here @markr041@kye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 insta360 Ace Pro versus DJI Pocket 3 at Night insta360 first then the Pocket 3 for each scene. insta360 Ace Pro set to Pure Video with low-light stabilization, sharpening low. DJI Pocket with noise reduction at the lowest level (-2) and 10bit HLG profile. Both auto white balance and auto exposure. No noise reduction in post. Pocket 3 HLG transformed using color management to REC709. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, markr041 said: insta360 Ace Pro versus DJI Pocket 3 at Night insta360 first then the Pocket 3 for each scene. insta360 Ace Pro set to Pure Video with low-light stabilization, sharpening low. DJI Pocket with noise reduction at the lowest level (-2) and 10bit HLG profile. Both auto white balance and auto exposure. No noise reduction in post. Pocket 3 HLG transformed using color management to REC709. Loved both! ; ) You cannot reach the same performance on GoPro for sure... Even though, Pocket is obviously my fav, I think there's place for the other one no doubt... Horses for courses beyond the small size factor. What resolution you've used the Ace Pro on these shots? 8K? It would be great to see 4K 120fps footage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 58 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Loved both! ; ) You cannot reach the same performance on GoPro for sure... Even though, Pocket is obviously my fav, I think there's place for the other one no doubt... Horses for courses beyond the small size factor. What resolution you've used the Ace Pro on these shots? 8K? It would be great to see 4K 120fps footage... 1. "insta360 Ace Pro set to Pure Video with low-light stabilization" = 4K 30p, fixed. That is the camera's best low-light setting. 2. The slow motion parts of the 4K 60P daylight video were shot in 4K 120p. There are three consecutive clips. Since this was a 60P video, the slow motion is 1/2 speed. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, markr041 said: 2. The slow motion parts of the 4K 60P daylight video were shot in 4K 120p. There are three consecutive clips. I mean, comparatively... between these 2 devices : ) 6 minutes ago, markr041 said: 1. "insta360 Ace Pro set to Pure Video with low-light stabilization" = 4K 30p, fixed. That is the camera's best low-light setting. And still comparatively, with 8K 24p on low light too only for the Ace Pro, obviously... :- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 The key innovation of the insta360 Ace Pro is its low-light stabilization setting. This appears, from my test video, to have almost eliminated the artifacts of digital stabilization while moving the camera in low light. Of course, all the digital noise reduction and processing results in a mushier video (compared to the non-processed (no noise reduction, no digital stabilization) video from the Pocket 3). But the results, if not looked at too closely, are impressive - colors are good and the dynamic range in "Pure Video" is pretty good too. My assessment about low light is that when the cameras are standing still, there is not that much difference - the difference is when the camera moves, given digital stabilization - GoPro is hopeless, and the insta360 Ace Pro does its magic, but the quality is still worse than mechanical stabilization, as seen in my video. To see the degradation from camera movement from the digital processing, look at the sign writing in the first insta360 clip at the end - when the camera is moving the print on the sign is doing peculiar things, when the camera stops, they become much clearer and precise. You do not se such a dramatic change at the end of the Pocket 3 version. One can invoke the low-light stabilization setting while shooting 8K 24P, so it would be interesting to see how that combination does at night, perhaps minimizing the mush. The "Pure Video" setting seems to push up exposure, and I reduced luma in post to make the video more realistic to the scenes. But I am not sure how that setting contributes to low-light prowess. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Interesting and helpful feedback, thank you for you care to let us know here in this community : ) I can't wait to see more from your findings and see you two with @kye cooperating with each other thoughts : )) Even when people disagree they invariably have something to share and something you two have in common, your passion and appreciation from us here I am pretty sure : ))) Speaking of me, I miss your posts when you're absent from these boards :- ) People always have something to learn from each other and someone's else experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markr041 Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 8K 24P in the rain: Dark day, suggests 8K 24P when walking with the camera will not look very good at night without the special lowlight stabilization setting. Emanuel and solovetski 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Maybe for steady shots? Lovely colour rendering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Maybe for steady shots? Lovely colour rendering... Yes, exactly. Steady shots are great, the resolution is there. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr041 Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 8K 24P Test in Low Light with the Low-light Stabilization Setting used When I Move with the Camera It appears that the low-light stabilization setting pushes up the shutter speed and ISO. You can see that in those clips (identified by whether or not I am moving with the camera) there is considerably more noise. The colors are retained and sharpness does not seem to be reduced, and the digital artifacts from low-light digital stabilization appear to be absent. Audio is good. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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