Davide DB Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 7 minutes ago, MrSMW said: That's it, - I am buying 6 of them. Actually, not seen any reviews yet and I need to do so before pushing this button... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, Davide DB said: Was going to post this, 6k raw at less than 10 ms. As he says, this is banana's. They use that new tech of partial stacked sensors to reduce the price and still give great speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrgl Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Wow. Incredible. Very tempting. I hope Nikon can release a competitive zoom lens with fast aperture, it's the only thing keeping me from making the switch. - Canon RF 28–70mm F2 - Sigma L/E 28-45mm F1.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 49 minutes ago, Eric Calabros said: NRAW 60k60p indoor recording: 1 hour and 45 minutes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kTej8zJFCXY&t=1158s Because battery dies... not else. If confirmed, this is the news to my book... Z8 has been outside from my radar because of my doubts on such an issue from user reports heard or read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evgeniy85 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Still no custom LUTs😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Was impressed to see that the Z6 mk3 gains waveforms! (as I don't think the Z6 series had this beforehand? https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4680517#forum-post-66604118 Was only Panasonic who had waveforms as a feature in their stills cameras??) This is a big deal! For people who are used to the benefits of using waveforms already. Ohhhh.... and the Z6 mk3 now supports line level audio!! That's also quite unique for a stills cameras, a great feature for a camera to have. 1 hour ago, MrSMW said: That's it, - I am buying 6 of them. Only half a dozen? Nah, go full hog, get a round dozen of them! 46 minutes ago, andrgl said: I hope Nikon can release a competitive zoom lens with fast aperture, it's the only thing keeping me from making the switch. I reckon they also need a slower zoom, say a f4 zoom that is a mega 10x zoom, not 24mm to 120mm but to 240mm! Or maybe even 28mm to 280mm??? With f4! It would be a nifty way to make use of that handheld control grip that Nikon has made for their cameras if you could control it like this, while covering sport games or other event coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 Just now, IronFilm said: now supports line level audio!! That's also quite unique for a stills cameras That line support came out of nowhere, and makes me think how this rumor/leak business works. Nobody cares about audio to the point that when they want to leak a feature, the audio related ones don't cross their mind. IronFilm and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 99% of the readers of NikonRumors.com wouldn't fully appreciate the significance of this! 🤣 😂 😆😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Why is it that Nikon hits Europeans so hard. USA price is roughly $2500 at B&H (with their credit card scheme) and in Europe it's 3000 euros ($3215) with tax. In Panasonic world, the prices are almost always lower in Europe than in the USA. That's a heavy hit. Danyyyel and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 VAT... but U.S. in the most part of States also has sales tax, although much lighter... IronFilm and John Matthews 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 7 minutes ago, Emanuel said: VAT... but U.S. in the most part of States also has sales tax, although much lighter... Yes, but you'll pay $2500 at the end of the day (including sales tax) with that Payboo B&H card scheme. In Europe, you're going to pay about $715 dollars more. No joke. We're back to 1990's price differences where you can purchase a ticket to NYC and back, buy your camera, and have a good weekend of travel. Emanuel and Danyyyel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 17 Administrators Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, Evgeniy85 said: Still no custom LUTs😢 This is a bit of a pity isn't it? Also the file sizes in ProRes RAW and N-RAW are not nice. Hopefully Nikon will do away with both in favour of R3D in future. Does it lack a mech shutter as per Z8/9? Apart from the above mentioned points and the bulkier body vs OG Z6 (not to mention bulkier price), it does seem like a very solid option but until it comes down in price, Z8 is surely the better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilkka Nissila Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 33 minutes ago, John Matthews said: Yes, but you'll pay $2500 at the end of the day (including sales tax) with that Payboo B&H card scheme. In Europe, you're going to pay about $715 dollars more. No joke. We're back to 1990's price differences where you can purchase a ticket to NYC and back, buy your camera, and have a good weekend of travel. To do that legally you need to report the camera at the customs when arriving back to the European airport, and pay VAT and possible tariff (you can get the US sales tax off by following appropriate procedures and paperwork). You also end up with the camera without warranty service available in Europe. In the end it probably doesn't pay off. Reasons why camera bodies are more expensive in Europe include higher taxes and much more stringent consumer protection laws. In my country the warranty is not limited to the period specified by the manufacturer but the responsibility for manufacturing flaws in the product extends for the expected usable lifetime of the product. In the EU, it is a minimum of two years, but specific countries have stronger protections. Being responsible costs the manufacturer money and so this is transferred into the price of the product. IronFilm, John Matthews and Davide DB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, Ilkka Nissila said: To do that legally you need to report the camera at the customs when arriving back to the European airport, and pay VAT and possible tariff (you can get the US sales tax off by following appropriate procedures and paperwork). You also end up with the camera without warranty service available in Europe. In the end it probably doesn't pay off. You've got to be kidding. Who does that? Granted, if you buy ten of them, it's different. Just now, Ilkka Nissila said: Reasons why camera bodies are more expensive in Europe include higher taxes and much more stringent consumer protection laws. In my country the warranty is not limited to the period specified by the manufacturer but the responsibility for manufacturing flaws in the product extends for the whole expected usable lifetime of the product. In the EU, it is a minimum of two years, but specific countries have stronger protections. Being responsible costs the manufacturer money and so this is transferred into the price of the product. Why is Panasonic almost always less expensive then? You have the same warranty laws. Seriously, Nikon is screwing the Europeans. Why? I'm not trying to be difficult. I just want to know why. Danyyyel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 Just now, Andrew Reid said: Does it lack a mech shutter as per Z8/9? No, its not stacked fast. Its just faster than non-stacked sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 That pricing in Europe is a bit controversial isn't it? €3k which is quite a big step up from the Z6ii and not too far short of the Z8... I wouldn't NOT buy something that fitted the bill purely based on cost, but what I thought for me was a foregone conclusion, I'm actually having second thoughts over now... Nothing so much to do with the Z6iii per se but more because I have a couple of alternative options lurking in the background and now when it comes down to pushing the button, I'm sitting on the fence a little longer. Hmmm... John Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 3 hours ago, IronFilm said: Ohhhh.... and the Z6 mk3 now supports line level audio!! That's also quite unique for a stills cameras, a great feature for a camera to have. Panasonic S5ii has line level too. Nonetheless this z6 looks to be another great camera from Nikon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 27 minutes ago, MrSMW said: That pricing in Europe is a bit controversial isn't it? €3k which is quite a big step up from the Z6ii and not too far short of the Z8... I wouldn't NOT buy something that fitted the bill purely based on cost, but what I thought for me was a foregone conclusion, I'm actually having second thoughts over now... Nothing so much to do with the Z6iii per se but more because I have a couple of alternative options lurking in the background and now when it comes down to pushing the button, I'm sitting on the fence a little longer. Hmmm... Yeah, I noticed the first time when I saw the pricing for the Nikon Zf, $2000 in USA, and $2500 in France. I thought at the time it was a one-off, but I guess not- this is apparently Nikon's pricing policy. Again, this is not the case with Panasonic. For that reason alone, I'd wait until I go to the USA, seriously. For the price of 3000 euros, you could two Panasonic S9s. Granted, the usage isn't the same, but I find that fact amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 17 Administrators Share Posted June 17 Here's my take on it https://www.eoshd.com/news/nikon-z6-iii-lands-with-video-aplomb-but-only-partial-excitement-for-photographers/ When it comes out at 3000 euros, you will be much better off spending the $100 less for a used Z8! After the price depreciates by about 2000 euros in 2 years, then it's a different proposition, I'll take ten. Once it hits the price of the Z6 (still nice BTW and better lowlight + DR for photos), sitting on eBay for £500 then I might even by an eleventh. But even then, I'm not sure I will need 6K/60p or want to put up with the file sizes in RAW. Which begs the question why bother, what else is on the table that it offers? And the RAW codecs just don't have that RAW look that a proper Cinema DNG codec has on a proper RAW camera like the Sigma Fp-L, especially in terms of noise and grain texture. I also think that the Japanese keep making cameras and images cleaner, sharper, better... Whereas the artist in me is starting to get very bored of that and looking for something different and more analogue. On the lenses side it's the same. So no the Z6 III doesn't really float my boat, especially not for 3000 euro. When the Sony A1 II comes out at $6k by the way, keep an eye on A1 OG prices... These may well be close to the Z6 III and Z8 soon. That 8K H.265 500Mbit/s 10bit 422 it does is the nicest one of all... and this is coming from an ex-Z9 owner....it is better than the 6K Z6 III N-RAW... Yet with an essential plus....a much more manageable size of recording. John Matthews and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlfan Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 z6 iii seems very promising, due to: 1. z mount shortest ff flange distance 2. buffer size, 14 bit raw 20 fps for 1000 frames (30 fps for ? frames, 60 fps?) 3. raw video 4. ibis at 8 cipa 5. 4k raw mode may be s35 for all s35 lenses IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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