ricardo_sousa11 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi everyone, I'm a videographer, most of my work is currently in weddings and such, and will be upgrading to the NX1 in the upcoming month. I was at first inclined to purchasing the GH4, but now realize the NX1 is a much better choice, and the best video camera for the price. Anyway, the problem is, it is currently very hard to find stores that have it in stock in Europe. I live in Portugal, and the camera wasnt even released here yet. I want to avoid using Amazon.co.uk because of the current price ( £1,260.15 - 1,760.31 € Body Only ) but I cant seem to find it elsewhere... Where do you guys recommend I get the camera ?! Im looking for the cheapest price online, with delivery to Portugal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqm Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 In germany on ebay its between 1550 and 1600€ incl. kit lens + shipping, maybe take a look.http://www.ebay.de/itm/SAMSUNG-NX-1-16-50mm-F3-5-5-6-Power-Zoom-30-MP-DSLM-Touchscreen-FullHD-/271826952943?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item3f4a2622ef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalEd Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Are you sure you want to use that on a wedding 4k super larger files then transcoding for hours on end creating even larger files. thats a lot of extra time for a long wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 EU wide offerings: http://geizhals.eu/?fs=nx1&in= , so you could go with Foto Koch or Foto Erhardt for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone1k Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I think for weddings, the easier work flow of the GH4 would be far better and outweigh the advantages of the NX1. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 The downsides on the NX1 are related to the new codec, those "problems" will soon go away, leaving me with a superior camera on the long run. sandro, IronFilm, Geoff CB and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone1k Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Image quality is only part of the equation. For weddings, I don't think the difference will be all that noticeable. The work flow however, will be extremely noticeable. When doing weddings, workflow is an extremely important factor. While more systems will support h265 in future, support is still very thin and requires a much higher spec computer. Also. The h265 macroblocking concerns me. By the time h265 is widely accepted and easy to deal with, you will probably be wanting a new camera anyway. GH4 now, h265 camera in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 While more systems will support h265 in future, support is still very thin and requires a much higher spec computer. So you transcode. Not really a big deal if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekhar Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yep. I got the NX1 a week back and immediately happened to cover the LA MDA Muscle Walk. Lot of footage, but it was pretty simple/easy to transcode to ProRes on my Windows machine. I used FFmpeg, which was fast (the app was Rocky Mountains, check it out especially if you want to easily do H.265->ProRes on Windows). The nice thing with this workflow is that once you're done with your edit, you can delete all the large ProRes files and archive the H.265 files, which are really small. Besides, even with H.264 you'd want to transcode to something that's more edit friendly anyway, so it isn't that different with H.265. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Image quality is only part of the equation. For weddings, I don't think the difference will be all that noticeable. The work flow however, will be extremely noticeable. When doing weddings, workflow is an extremely important factor. While more systems will support h265 in future, support is still very thin and requires a much higher spec computer. Also. The h265 macroblocking concerns me. By the time h265 is widely accepted and easy to deal with, you will probably be wanting a new camera anyway. GH4 now, h265 camera in a few years. Years ?! H265 support will probably arrive to most systems this summer.Its not just about the image quality, the Nx1 seems like a higher quality camera all around, there would be no point in getting the GH4 at this time IMO. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 If / when H265 is supported in Premiere — I might stick to my current workflow. It all depends on how the footage looks, of course. But I've really preferred working with ProRes. I don't miss working with GH4 H264 files. Despite the file size and ability to edit immediately after shooting (which, c'mon. How often did I need to turn around my projects in less than 24 hours after shooting it?)This is my thinking, currently with my schedual, I only deliver my works in 2 months (max.) so 1 day wont make a difference. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Bringing this back from the dead, I was gettingt the camera at Verkkokauppa but the price raised and I couldnt get it in time. Anyone knows where's the cheapest pack around ? Body only or some kits, preferably around 1500€ tops. Europe only, and new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Ebay Germany Body + Kit around 1500€ New. almost every shop here the same price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 I've been searching on ebay.de and cant find any around that price, any specific store ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 1550€ with kit on ebay... saw it allready cheaper..http://www.ebay.de/itm/SAMSUNG-NX-1-16-50mm-F3-5-5-6-Power-Zoom-30-MP-DSLM-Touchscreen-FullHD-/281708781603?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item419726e023or body only in many shops for 1500€https://geizhals.de/samsung-nx1-schwarz-gehaeuse-a1165578.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 1550€ with kit on ebay... saw it allready cheaper..http://www.ebay.de/itm/SAMSUNG-NX-1-16-50mm-F3-5-5-6-Power-Zoom-30-MP-DSLM-Touchscreen-FullHD-/281708781603?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item419726e023or body only in many shops for 1500€https://geizhals.de/samsung-nx1-schwarz-gehaeuse-a1165578.htmlThank you so much, Im probably getting that packAny feedback on the store ? **Im no expert in german, but it says they only ship to germany I believe..?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 You mean the shop at ebay? its one of the biggest elektronic consumer product supplier in Germany, you find them in every city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 You mean the shop at ebay? its one of the biggest elektronic consumer product supplier in Germany, you find them in every city.Good, Ill send them a message to know if they ship to Portugal. This has been such a pain to get, since the camera wasnt released in Portugal yet, nor Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqm Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 but wait i didnt saw that it is an "exhibition piece" hope you understand what i mean it was in a shelf behind glass so hopefully realy low shutter count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Bringing this back from the dead, I was gettingt the camera at Verkkokauppa but the price raised and I couldnt get it in time. Anyone knows where's the cheapest pack around ? Body only or some kits, preferably around 1500€ tops. Europe only, and new.In The Netherlands it's in stock at all the big stores:http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/422434/samsung-nx1-body-zwart.htmlGreen icon means next day delivery - Europe probably will take a bit longer. Cameranu.nl sends everywhere within Europe, UPS €25 1-5 days, UPS Express €45 1 day.Price is the same everywhere... €1499 body only.Here are the other kit options:http://tweakers.net/product/411278/samsung-nx1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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