mercer Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 In 4K mode, crop factor becomes x2.49, not 2.0.Thanks, liork. I thought I had read that somewhere. I must assume ETC mode doesn't shoot 4K? I have a couple nice c mount lenses I would love to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 In several places, its been said that the G7 sensor is similar to the one in GF7 model and not the GH4.I wonder what changes in quality we may see.B&H said it is the same sensor as is in the GX7 and LX100, and lots and lots of people use the LX100 as a 4K B cam to their GH4. So I'd say if you're comfortable already using an LX100 as your B cam, then you'll have no problem with the G7 matching :-) I wonder when the NX50 will come out?? That might not have the awful NX500 cropping, and have an external mic input, and make it a decent cheaper competitor vs the Panasonic G7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I am curious as to how this compares with the LX100 and the FZ1000, for video. They all shoot 4k, and have very similar features as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I am curious as to how this compares with the LX100 and the FZ1000, for video. They all shoot 4k, and have very similar features as well. I would assume it is more comparable to the LX100 due to sensor size, but you have the ability to change lenses and you have a mic input. I was sold on the FZ1000 as my next camera, but I have LBA, so when I learned about the G7, I think there is no substitute at this price point. I must assume, the LX100 and the FZ1000 will drop in price soon after the G7 release. So maybe I'll be able to get both. sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I would assume it is more comparable to the LX100 due to sensor size, but you have the ability to change lenses and you have a mic input. I was sold on the FZ1000 as my next camera, but I have LBA, so when I learned about the G7, I think there is no substitute at this price point. I must assume, the LX100 and the FZ1000 will drop in price soon after the G7 release. So maybe I'll be able to get both.I hope this is true. I love the LX100 and most people who complain about the lack of GH4 kind of Cinema Settings are not honest enough to admit that the GH4 cinema profiles made the codec fall apart. Also pushing the Highlights and Shadows curves too much also can be bad for post. I am hoping the LX100 gets a Higher Bitrate Firmware (with 4-2-2). Even at 200Mbpa it would be a treat.The FZ1000 and the LX100 are as food for low light, except that the LX100 adds about 1.5 stops due to its faster lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cryer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Pre-ordered one. Just got to decide with a GH4 and now this if I start getting M4/3 lenses or stick with the EF mounts I already have and the Speedbooster. I see Samyang have announced the VDSLR Cine Lenses they do in M4/3 mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Pre-ordered one. Just got to decide with a GH4 and now this if I start getting M4/3 lenses or stick with the EF mounts I already have and the Speedbooster. I see Samyang have announced the VDSLR Cine Lenses they do in M4/3 mount.Nooo.... don't get them in m4/3 mount! The safest bet is to get them in Nikon F mount. I went into a bit more detail as to why when I purchased my set:http://ironfilm.co.nz/rokinon-cine-lenses/ pablogrollan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Where's the frontpage article?Revolutionary camera imo, for the budget shooter. The GH2 of 2015 johnnymossville, utsira, IronFilm and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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utsira Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Driftwood footage looks good. Hoping the camera lands in more videographers hands soon. Interesting to see the experiments with different aspect ratios and shutter speeds. I'm all for a bit of vertical cinema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Any new video samples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Will the proud owners of the G6 upgrade to the G7? Other than the obvious, are there any other upgrades that are enticing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Three interesting features on the G7: 1. Mic in, placed where it doesn't hinder with the articulated screen's movement.2. 8-Bit 4-2-2- out, via HDMI. 3. Base ISO being jacked up suggests that the low light capability has been improved. I am guessing 3200 ISO is pretty usable, and 6400 also with a little cleaning. niiiiiiiiiiiiiice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utsira Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 IMO the main issue with the G6 is noise. If the G7 does in fact have the GX7 sensor (but enabled for 4K), there should be a big improvement in that area. Also the G7 has a proper two-dial setup (rather than rear dial + zoom rocker as on the G6) mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Three interesting features on the G7: 1. Mic in, placed where it doesn't hinder with the articulated screen's movement.2. 8-Bit 4-2-2- out, via HDMI. 3. Base ISO being jacked up suggests that the low light capability has been improved. I am guessing 3200 ISO is pretty usable, and 6400 also with a little cleaning. niiiiiiiiiiiiiice Yeah the G7 and the Ninja Star sounds like a nice little set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Outputs 1080p though. Uncompressed 4:2:2 via Mini HDMI interface. Hope it's a great 4K downsampled signal, like the GH4 when set to 4K mode + 1080p HDMI output or the 1DC when set to 4K mode with 1080p output. I adore this feature, because with a star/ninja2/BMvideoAssist you could just skip the post-downsample process and have it done in camera, going home with super sharp perfect 1080p 4:2:2 ProRes files. Best workflow ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 is it full sensor read out or 1:1 2.3x crop in 4K mode?Was hoping the former since it's a different sensor than GH4.Cheap Speedboosters, here we come. Cheap focal reducers' manufacturers will flourish with this release if it's 2.3x 4K at 700$! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Outputs 1080p though. Uncompressed 4:2:2 via Mini HDMI interface. Hope it's a great 4K downsampled signal, like the GH4 when set to 4K mode + 1080p HDMI output or the 1DC when set to 4K mode with 1080p output. I adore this feature, because with a star/ninja2/BMvideoAssist you could just skip the post-downsample process and have it done in camera, going home with super sharp perfect 1080p 4:2:2 ProRes files. Best workflow ever.Yeah, that would be great, has there been any info on this? I guess the bmAssist would be a better option than the ninja star due to the added lcd? sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Yes I didn't like the star at all, it feels you're blind and non trustable. More suitable for aerial just for weight concerns. Ninja 2 is a much better option for normal shooting (for not much more), Video assist might be even better but not tried yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I really hope they offer the body only. I have never purchased a camera right when it's released...is that something they sometimes offer at release? sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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