tosvus Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Honestly even now super shallow DOF is pretty uncommon for theatrical movies. I think the nice thing about larger sensors is that you can get a sharper image for a given DOF. F/5.6 on full frame will give you a sharp image and more DOF than F/5.6 on m43 or super 16.A larger sensor will give you less DoF at a given f-stop than a smaller camera. At F5.6 more will be in focus on a Panasonic GH4 than a Sony A7RII for instance. If separation is imperative, you either go for a larger sensor, or really fast lenses on smaller sensor cameras. If you want extremely shallow focus, you can combine the two and get a super fast lense for Full Frame. Personally, my Nocticron 42.5mm at f1.2 is as shallow as I would EVER want even on m43. I cannot imagine using something that offers a more shallow focus.Back to the discussion though - I agree, I think the perception has become that shallow focus is more cinematic, but as you and others point out, it isn't REALLY so. It's a combination of many factors, and to some degree, it is subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristoferman Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 A larger sensor will give you less DoF at a given f-stop than a smaller camera. At F5.6 more will be in focus on a Panasonic GH4 than a Sony A7RII for instance. If separation is imperative, you either go for a larger sensor, or really fast lenses on smaller sensor cameras. If you want extremely shallow focus, you can combine the two and get a super fast lense for Full Frame. Personally, my Nocticron 42.5mm at f1.2 is as shallow as I would EVER want even on m43. I cannot imagine using something that offers a more shallow focus.Back to the discussion though - I agree, I think the perception has become that shallow focus is more cinematic, but as you and others point out, it isn't REALLY so. It's a combination of many factors, and to some degree, it is subjective.Yeah I know, I just mixed up the terminology. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosvus Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 my answer to your wondering about filmic DOF and what makes a technically filmic image is here:(sorry bit long!) You can skip to the DOF point. Very nice article!! As with many things, there is an extreme where very large DoF seems "video-ish", but one doesn't necessarily have to go extreme in the other direction to make it "cinematic" either (as I think your example shows). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Pierre Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 to Ebrahim...read your excellent article on the very overused "filmic,cinematic" term. The irony is that the quality of footage coming out of sub $1000 cameras today is astonishing and if we fetishize them less and use them more, the low budget film maker is now in a place unimaginable 10 years ago...a beautifully written and thoughtful essay....Thank you! Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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