MrSMW Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Ninpo33 said: But you already know that I actually got over €150 more from MPB when I sent them my S1H. Also, for another item, they increased the value/quote and they did not need to do this so to me that is the sign of a fair company. I bought my S1H for something around 2.5k and sold it for 900 so the total cost was 1600 for its life with me. It was used on 60+ paying jobs so worked out at a cost of around €27 per job turning over an average of ballpark €3.5k per job. OK, there was other kit used as in other cameras and lenses, but compared with say renting, €26 per job for a piece of kit like an S1H is bonkers cheap! Not per day as each ion my jobs are an average 2 days, but per job, so more like €13 for aq day's 'hire'. A major difference I guess vs the 'casual user' of photo gear and working pros is that we don't actually pay for anything we use. Ever. Some of us do however throw away a but more than we might otherwise but as long as you don't swap brands every other week... Ninpo33, zlfan and John Matthews 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 13 hours ago, Ninpo33 said: I was going to pull the trigger on the BS1H when it went on sale to $1995 for a bit last year. Would have been great for my needs but then I learned it had no IBIS and it was an immediate non starter. Why would you build a mini S1H box camera and then take out one of it's most desirable features? Panasonic is weird sometimes...I feel bad for people that bought it, there are a few online used for close to what they were new meanwhile the S1h is 1/4 the price it was when launched. These people are stuck with a dud for sure... I assume it's for the same reason the GH5s has no IBIS - for use in 'crash cam' situations where the high G-forces and vibration would upset (and potentially damage) the IBIS mechanics, introducing worse picture distortions than you'd get without IBIS. I think they're primarily intended for situations where the camera is used in a fixed position and operated remotely (like, I assume, in BTM_Pix's picture above) or in 'hostile' environments where they are cheap enough to write-off if the worst happens. They're just aimed at a different part of the market compared to the S1H - and if some are selling 'used for close to what they were new' that suggests there is decent demand for it (the non-IBIS GH5s has also held its used value quite well). Ninpo33, zlfan and John Matthews 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninpo33 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 3 hours ago, ac6000cw said: They're just aimed at a different part of the market compared to the S1H - and if some are selling 'used for close to what they were new' that suggests there is decent demand for it (the non-IBIS GH5s has also held its used value quite well). I agree with the use case and non IBIS. Studio cams mostly I think based on how they advertised the networking ability. I don't think they sold too many to be honest so people don't have a lot of reference for the value since so few are listed for sale. The ones that are tend to sit for a while and are priced pretty high for what they are in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 Markuspix just compared some video cameras: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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