Sekhar Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Samsung is apparently showcasing NX1 with four short films, starting with Yvonne. What do you guys think of this first one?To me, it was extremely painful to watch (took me three tries to complete): way too long/labored, too frivolous/banal/trite, had no rhythm/arc whatsoever that I could discern, etc. Overall, seemed like a complete failure as an engaging short film and wasted the talent.On the technical side, the resolution was awesome as you'd expect from NX1, as were the colors (not the grading). But the overall look was shockingly cheap and video-like, complete with blown highlights, banding, and even moire...almost like what you'd get out of a smartphone.May be I'm being too critical and may be I'd change my opinion, but those are my immediate thoughts. Overall, I don't see this in any way selling NX1 to filmmakers. The sad part is, I believe all the issues I mentioned have little to do with NX1.Anyway, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I completely agree with you, and althought the raw quality is there, it seems that Samsung is trying to market this as a "intro-level" camera, and not the actual pro-level it is. Some people think this is a fancier compact camera, They should have made some contest with the NX1 community, and then select 4 shortfilms, im sure the quality would have been much higher and much more enjoyable. Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Haven't watched it, skipped trough it, sure as hell I'm not going to watch it. Looks terrible. Sharpened plastic crap. Looks like a mediocre cheap tv show.Still, the intention is good. The execution just sucks. Ok, I can live with a crappy story, it's marketing so I won't expect art. But then at least make something that looks attractive, or something that has that hollywood blockbuster feel to it. Let that big sensor shine. Show some depth of field. This could have been a promo for some 2/3" 4K camcorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 got almost 15 seconds in almost as bad as the c300mkii promotional short film. exploiting that Joseph Gordon Levitt short film shot with Nx1's, or even just a glamour shot montage music video would have been an infinitely better call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Even the behind the scenes seems to almost completely ignore the camera. They did rig it up to the extreme levels though, can't even see the camera. What's the point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Cheap, over sharpened and the DP apparently doesn't know how to light to save his life. When the man is sitting in the living room (3:35) the children are terribly underlit and the mans crotch is overexposed! WTF? Also good god the camera movement is atrocious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinchimp Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 This is truely the worst camera showcase I can imagine, despite them obviously putting some resources into it.Even the behind the scenes is shoddily made. Very strange of Samsung to promote this on their official channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I do think most are being over-critical of this short. The filming quality was pretty good (yes a bit under lit at times, not much dimension) and the story should of been 3 minutes long and a lot zippier. But, it did prove to me that the NX1 is a more than capable tool for professional video - the DP got close to achieving a cinematic look. Much better effort than those absolutely terrible Sony A7R, RX videos. Weird thing is, I thought the short looked best at 720p on Youtube. Sometimes 4k on a 4k monitor looks so ridiculously crisp that it's very distracting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Just watched this. Very disappointing... Largely because we all know the camera can do much better. Unfortunately this production did little to make a case for that argument. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 May be I'm being too critical and may be I'd change my opinion, but those are my immediate thoughts. Overall, I don't see this in any way selling NX1 to filmmakers.I'm on a selection committee for a film fest. Honestly, we see a lot more creativity from people working with a lot less. Point is, this film is lame. I'll agree with ya. Anyway, a good aspiring film maker will recognize that it's not the camera failing here. Of course, many aspiring film makers don't always know what the hell they're doing, so they could be swayed negatively with lousy films.I mean, "Reverie" wasn't exactly great narrative, but at least it used light in a good interesting way. Yvonne's cinematography is sterile and ... well, just bad. Samsung should've pulled the plug on this film and left it alone. --And putting it on YouTube with an open comment section? Whooo-weee....good luck with that. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.f.r. Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm on a selection committee for a film fest. Honestly, we see a lot more creativity from people working with a lot less. Point is, this film is lame. I'll agree with ya. Anyway, a good aspiring film maker will recognize that it's not the camera failing here. Of course, many aspiring film makers don't always know what the hell they're doing, so they could be swayed negatively with lousy films.I mean, "Reverie" wasn't exactly great narrative, but at least it used light in a good interesting way. Yvonne's cinematography is sterile and ... well, just bad. Samsung should've pulled the plug on this film and left it alone. --And putting it on YouTube with an open comment section? Whooo-weee....good luck with that.Almost as bad if not worst than the GH4 released film as well, has very little to do with the camera........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 has very little to do with the camera.So true. Which is why I don't tend to sweat it too much if I'm not using the latest and greatest imaging device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It's incredible that someone on Samsung financed and approved that shortfilm!!! IronFilm and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Gentles Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You can tell the camera resolves really well, kinda looks like canon to me. The movie content is annoying but I like the IQ and see the potential! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 To my eyes it looks very flat and video like. I think this is more to do with lighting and cinematography than the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynDan Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Most short films made by manufacturers to launch their new cameras are very bad. The Canon ones were terrible, the Nikon ones were lame, and the Sony demos are usually just razor-sharp pictures of leaves and temples.I did glean from the behind-the-scenes footage that the director is some dude who works for Samsung. Possibly in a marketing capacity. I.e. not a filmmaker. No properly trained and experienced filmmaker who make a short that lame. My god, there's even a shot of the milk getting tossed into the trashcan! Ow my eyes!I wish that manufacturers would at least be imaginative in who they choose to direct these things. Find some up-and-comer, someone who might have recently had a short in Sundance or some other major festival. Trust me, most of these people are broke as fuck. They'd totally do it. Find someone with a distinctive imagination, toss 'em a camera and some money, and release a decent short.Just don't hire someone from the marketing department to direct your product launch video. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Just don't hire someone from the marketing department to direct your product launch video.Anyone in marketing that would think this is a good idea probably shouldn't be in marketing, but that's corporate culture for you.If it were me, I'd be hiring Kendry (for the same budget they spent on this mistake) and just let him do his thing. Whatever he came back with at the end of a month would get people excited. Not only what he did but how he shot it.Heck, spend a day on Vimeo and you could track down hundreds of talented filmmakers.This particular movie strikes me as the perfect example of a talent challenged film maker* devoted to the tech and the idea of making a movie --while not having enough well rounded artistic talent. The film is amusing to me in the sense that It does illustrate how the fundamentals of making a good film has pretty much jack-squat to do with the camera.*full disclosure: I consider myself as such so I recognize the limitations. Geoff CB and johnnymossville 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymossville Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Running around any national park, remote farmland, or large city for a day and getting beauty shots would have been far more watchable than this. Anyway, the camera looked good. Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfernald Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 You guys just don't get it... This film is a disturbing social commentary on the American family and the human condition...The mom "entering the fridge" is really symbolic for her addiction to crystal meth (ice). Notice how the family has to function more and more without her as her addiction gets worse? I didn't watch the ending (who could make it that far), but I like to think something really shocking (like GoT shocking) happened at the end, like maybe her pimp and drug dealer ends up executing her family one by one. Zach Goodwin, Julian, Geoff CB and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 maybe her pimp and drug dealer ends up executing her family one by one. I don't think Andrew Putschoegl is exactly the next best Vince Gilligan, but maybe the dude has a darker side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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