Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17 Super Members Share Posted July 17 Watch here sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17 Author Super Members Share Posted July 17 Well I'm guessing that whatever massive feature set these new cameras have that a level meter isn't one of them Davide DB, kye, herein2020 and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 From DPReview: R1 - https://www.dpreview.com/news/5361436240/canon-announces-eos-r1-flagship-sports-photojournalism-camera Quote Key specifications 24.2MP stacked CMOS sensor 100% AF coverage with cross-type sensors Up to 40fps blackout-free shooting (JPEG+Raw) Pre-capture for photo and video (1/2 sec. for photos, 3 or 5 sec for video) Eye-controlled AF with improved eye detection Activity AF mode trained on specific sports Pre-registered person AF priority Blur/out-of-focus image detection In-camera processing with neural network noise reduction In-camera processing with AI upscaling 6K/60p internal Raw video capture DCI-4K capture up to 120fps Canon S-Log2 gamma profile R5 ii - https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-r5-ii-initial-review Quote Key specifications: 45MP Stacked CMOS sensor Eye-controlled AF subject selection Up to 30fps continuous shooting with blackout free viewfinder In-body stabilization rated at up to 8.5EV correction, coordinated with lens Pre-burst capture (JPEG) 8K Raw video capture up to 60p Canon C-Log2 profile Waveforms and false color display AF trained by machine learning for specific sports AI-enhanced post-shot noise reduction or upscaling 1x CFexpress Type B, 1x UHS-II SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 4 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: Well I'm guessing that whatever massive feature set these new cameras have that a level meter isn't one of them Feel the cinema! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, ac6000cw said: From DPReview: R1 - https://www.dpreview.com/news/5361436240/canon-announces-eos-r1-flagship-sports-photojournalism-camera R5 ii - https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-r5-ii-initial-review Sounds expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, kye said: Sounds expensive. From Canon press release: Quote The Canon EOS R1 camera is expected to be available in the Fall of 2024, for an estimated retail price of $6,299.00*. The Canon EOS R5 Mark II camera is expected to be available in August 2024, for an estimated retail price of $4,299.00* for the camera body only. The EOS R5 Mark II camera kit, which will include the RF24-105mm F4 L IS USM lens, will have an estimated retail price of $5,399.00*. For more information, please visit www.usa.canon.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 11 minutes ago, ac6000cw said: From Canon press release: Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17 Author Super Members Share Posted July 17 The UK price for the R5ii is £4499 versus £3299 for the Z8. The R5ii has some neat new features but the core stuff doesn't seem like its justifying 35% a hike against the more flexible mounted Z8. I'll be interested to see the overheating scrutiny it gets after the erm "interesting" history of the mark 1. kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 We all remember the fiasco with the R5, but I have to admit the R5II sounds pretty amazing, I may replace my R7 with it but need to proceed with extreme caution to ensure all of the specs on the spec sheet are true. Below are the features that really stand out for me: No Line Skipping - From the documentation I have viewed so far, it looks like all modes are full sensor read out including 4K60FPS No Record Limit - FINALLY, for only $4299 you can remove the record limit from the R5 CLOG3 and CLOG2 - I find CLOG3 adequate for most of my needs, but it will be nice to be able to pair the R5 with the C70 and have them both shoot in CLOG2 XFAVC - This is a really nice codec addition to the R5, much easier to edit than your typical H.265 Full size HDMI Port - Even I have to ask....where is the cripple hammer? It has to be hiding somewhere in these details. WFM, False Color, Zebras - Canon may finally be taking some cues from Panasonic and is throwing in everything but the kitchen sink for once. New 4K60 RAW - Will be interested to hear more about what the data rate and specs are for this new raw format, I wish they had just used Cinema Raw LT like what I have in the C70 ANOTHER new battery? Keeping up with these batteries is almost as expensive as the camera itself, battery life in some of these modes is definitely a big question mark for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I would have just liked the spec of the R5 in the R3 body and would have switched to Canon as they have 2 lenses that would really work for me and that body is by far the best I have ever handled. I hate add on battery grips but also ‘need’ more than 24 mega pixies… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17 Author Super Members Share Posted July 17 27 minutes ago, kye said: Feel the cinema! Very much Batman 1966 with the Dutch angle when in the lairs of the villains to indicate that they were crooked. Not sure thats the vibe that Canon would want to portray but it would have been quite apt for the launch of the original R5. kye and sanveer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, MrSMW said: I would have just liked the spec of the R5 in the R3 body and would have switched to Canon as they have 2 lenses that would really work for me and that body is by far the best I have ever handled. I hate add on battery grips but also ‘need’ more than 24 mega pixies… Why do you dislike battery grips? I like the versatility, my video camera never has one since it needs to be on a gimbal sometimes and my photography camera always has one for maximum battery life. If this camera truly lives up to the hype then I will standardize on two R5 II's, one set up for photos, and one set up for hybrid photo/video shooting, standardize on the new battery, and sell my R5 and R7. With two R5 II's and the C70 I will be able to simplify my kit a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Does anyone else understand what this means: Quote The native ISO range runs from 100-51200, which can be expanded to ISO 50-102400. I have read that 3x on different spec sheets but still don't understand what it means or if it means what it says then I don't believe it.....does the R5II really have a NATIVE ISO range from 100-51200? I have heard of dual native ISO and now triple native ISO for the C400, there is no way the R5II has hundreds of native ISOs. I think they mean standard ISO and extended ISO. eatstoomuchjam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 16 minutes ago, herein2020 said: I think they mean standard ISO and extended ISO. Yes. I think they mean that out of the box, ISO goes to 51200, but there's a setting where you can ask it to allow 102400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 11 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said: Yes. I think they mean that out of the box, ISO goes to 51200, but there's a setting where you can ask it to allow 102400. It is just annoying especially for a new product launch that something that important uses the wrong terminology. I am fine with just dual native ISO, but at least use the right terminology on launch day. Admittedly, this was not on the Canon website but it looks like a copy/paste spec sheet that all of the vendors have posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I've seen/heard a few mentions that video dynamic range on the R5 II is better than the original. I'll be curious about how much since the original's was mediocre at best. Otherwise, stacked sensor w/ less RS sounds great. Waveform monitor is nice (and hopefully people will browbeat Canon into making it movable/resizable since the current location/size is... bad). For my uses, I couldn't care less about whether 8K can go to 60 fps now (especially since I suspect it require the fan grip, even when running/stopping on set). I'm also curious about just how hot the body gets in high temperature mode without the fan. That's a small body and 8Kp60 I'm maybe more excited about Canon's "SRAW" option which can do full sensor-width 4K in a raw-like container- especially if that adds a little more DR due to downsampling. Could make for easier editing next to my C70. Overall, the R5 II looks pretty solid. I'll look forward to seeing the feedback after it gets in the hands of real users - and to probably trading in my OG R5 to get one as soon as the first wave of used bodies hit the stores. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Here is probably the best review out so far, it looks like the 4K raw option has a 760Mbs data rate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79r1NwRVf7Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Calabros Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 8k raw bitrate for 30fps is 2600mb/s. Thats 4.6:1 compression ratio. For 8k60p you have to use "lightweight" raw, same 2600mb/s, and that equals to almost 9:1 compression ratio. 8k24p 10bit 4:2:2 "high" intra: 1920mb/s. Seems like there is no 8k60p 10bit recording. Also didn't find 4k60p "Fine", so its not from full sensor readout. The only "Fine" 4k60p is 8bit 4:2:0. eatstoomuchjam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 6 minutes ago, Eric Calabros said: 8k raw bitrate for 30fps is 2600mb/s. Thats 4.6:1 compression ratio. For 8k60p you have to use "lightweight" raw, same 2600mb/s, and that equals to almost 9:1 compression ratio. 8k24p 10bit 4:2:2 "high" intra: 1920mb/s. Seems like there is no 8k60p 10bit recording. Also didn't find 4k60p "Fine", so its not from full sensor readout. The only "Fine" 4k60p is 8bit 4:2:0. I have a hard time believing 4K30 is line skipped or only 8bit, here is the BH spec sheet, admittedly it is hard to tell what's what on it but I just don't see any scenario where you only get 4K30 8bit, even the R7 is 10bit and offers non line skipped 4K30. In the spec sheet below it looks like all of the codecs are available for all of the resolutions. Do you have a link to a better spec sheet? Raw 14-Bit DCI 8K (8192 x 4320) at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/50/59.94 fps DCI 4K (4096 x 2160) at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/50/59.94 fps H.264/MP4/XF-AVC S/XF-HEVC S 4:2:2/4:2:0 8/10-Bit DCI 8K (8192 x 4320) at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97 fps UHD 8K (7680 x 4320) at 23.98/25/29.97 fps DCI 4K (4096 x 2160) at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/50/59.94/100/120 fps UHD 4K (3840 x 2160) at 23.98/25/29.97/50/59.94/100/120 fps DCI 2K (2048 x 1080) at 23.98/24.00/25/29.97/50/59.94/100/120/200/240 fps 1920 x 1080 at 23.98/25/29.97/50/59.94/100/120/200/240 fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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