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9 hours ago, fuzzynormal said:

FWIW, the EM5ii was my favorite camera ever to hold and shoot with.  Shame the IQ was poopy.  If only they would've engineered it to do 4K I'd probably still be using it.

Which is basically what they did with the E-M5 iii (but with the body re-designed to use plastics to reduce the weight - it's 20% lighter).

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On 2/5/2025 at 1:32 AM, ac6000cw said:

Which is basically what they did with the E-M5 iii (but with the body re-designed to use plastics to reduce the weight - it's 20% lighter).

Yeah, but they also removed the ability to record audio directly into the EM5III cam.  It's not like the EM5II was awesome for audio, but for recording voice it was fine and that worked for me.   Just really bummed the EM5III was ham-strung for video folks like us.  Ultimately, I just got the EM10III (refurbished for $300, so cheap) that had the same video capabilities as the EM5III.  (but still no direct audio)

And the weight of hybrids never mattered to me.  I used to shoot 3/4" video tape.  Everything is easy compared to that.  On my EM5II I used the OEM battery grip and a tank of a 55mm FD lens as my main video rig.  That mass helped.

As it happens, I'm still using my modest EM10III a lot.  It's just not my daily driver.  For that I rely on the GH cameras.  Once you have high speed frame rates at 4K, such as you get with the GH LUMIX'es, it's hard to not to have that production flexibility when shooting run 'n gun. 

The GH cameras deliver a purty picture and cool abilities, but using them leaves me a bit cold.  For some reason I just like holding and using the Olys, even though they were, and are, subpar IQ-wise.

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1 hour ago, fuzzynormal said:

Yeah, but they also removed the ability to record audio directly into the EM5III cam.

Do you mean line-level audio input (via the mic jack) i.e. 'PCM Recorder Link' mode as it's called in the menus?

That's also in the E-M5 iii and the E-M1 ii, but was dropped on the later generations (E-M1 iii onwards).

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4 minutes ago, ac6000cw said:

That's also in the E-M5 iii and the E-M1 ii,

Ah.  Yes.  you're right.  What was it then?  There was some reason audio related, I think.  It's been a few years.  Maybe it was a videographer couldn't live monitor the audio recording?  It was something "audio" that held me back.  I also remember the EM5III didn't have 60p 4K, and that bummed me out. 

Trying to grade Oly is always a bit of a let down too.  Doable, but you don't get much leeway with, say, a GH5.

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On 2/5/2025 at 7:32 PM, ac6000cw said:

Which is basically what they did with the E-M5 iii (but with the body re-designed to use plastics to reduce the weight - it's 20% lighter).

here's an interesting tibit. I bought a uv torch in the 365nm range i think. for illuminating rocks or rocks that fluoresce under uv light. After playing around with the only rock specimen i own (at the moment) i started pointing it at everything else in the room (as you do... ) Surprisingly the olympus e-m10 ii has small bits in the plastic housing that fluoresce. I know surprised me too.. I guess there all sorts of material in plastic, maybe even recycled stuff but i'm speculating there. i should get some photos for posterity. 

By the way, there's an Olympus  e-m1 iii body on the way. Comes with a v30 card and flash. Low shutter count of 1000 photos. looks mint in the photos. Must have picked a bad day to go against the us dollar, or ebays estimate of currency transactions is extremely optimistic...  Because there was definitely a thump in the guts when i clicked buy it now and the price jumped up about $120 or perhaps buyers remorse kickin in lol. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, maxJ4380 said:

By the way, there's an Olympus  e-m1 iii body on the way. Comes with a v30 card and flash. Low shutter count of 1000 photos. looks mint in the photos.

A shutter count of 1000 on a pro-grade camera is almost a brand-new level of usage. You did well to find one with the flash included, as often used ones don't have them. Hopefully it'll come with the original Olympus USB-C cable included - I've found the E-M1 ii/iii I've owned to be a bit picky about USB-C cable quality.

Enjoy 🙂!

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yes olympus flash, not sure of the guide number as it doesn't look overly big. but some flash is better than no flash. I presume original cable it has those toroidal rings things surrounding the cable. there's also a plastic molded thingy that i presume secures the cable to camera.  

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1 hour ago, maxJ4380 said:

I presume original cable it has those toroidal rings things surrounding the cable. there's also a plastic molded thingy that i presume secures the cable to camera.  

Both correct.

1 hour ago, maxJ4380 said:

yes olympus flash, not sure of the guide number as it doesn't look overly big. but some flash is better than no flash.

I don't think the E-M1 iii had a flash bundled with it, but the E-M1 ii had the FL-LM3 bundled - if you've got that one, the specs (from the E-M1 ii manual) are:

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yes its a fl lm3.  I can just make out the model number in a different photo. No idea if it came bundled with the camera. there's no box for the flash only a soft fabric pouch in the photos. Your right about cables, after market cables can be a minefield.  Years ago my blue yeti usb cable died relatively quickly, maybe within 6 weeks.. replacing that with something that works took three different attempts. I recently bought two different 5 pin midi cables. After doing a continuity test with a multimeter, neither was ever going to work as the wrong pins had been wired up. I anticipated that and had bought extra xlr sockets to rewire with anyway.

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  • 1 month later...

Yay its arrived.. Battery was as flat as a tack. Got it on charge now. Visually it perfect, there's not a mark on it. Got a somewhat free day tomorrow.  i plan on taking photos of all the murals that have been painted on various walls in and around town. and some video as well probably.

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I'm embarrassed to say, things didn't quite go to plan. I did read the manual, maybe not the whole manual.., I formatted the card easy enough. Then called it a night. Once i got to town i learnt i couldn't take a photo. Something about not assigning a card drive to taking photos. While the camera is smart enough to format a card in camera it wont take a photo and store with out explicitly being told too apparently. Never had that problem before but then i never had a camera that has two card slots either.  Live and learn i guess. Not sure what i did to fix it or the how either but i can take photos now lol.

New plan,   do the same thing again (but take photos this time) tomorrow or more likely Saturday.       

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AFAIK, after a 'full reset' of the settings (see 'Shooting menu 1 -> Reset/Custom modes -> Reset -> Full), it defaults to using card slot 1 for everything. As this is a used camera, I'd recommend doing a 'full reset' anyway - the options are so complicated that you don't want someone else's preferences to start from...

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On 3/20/2025 at 7:03 PM, ac6000cw said:

AFAIK, after a 'full reset' of the settings (see 'Shooting menu 1 -> Reset/Custom modes -> Reset -> Full), it defaults to using card slot 1 for everything. As this is a used camera, I'd recommend doing a 'full reset' anyway - the options are so complicated that you don't want someone else's preferences to start from...

 

I flattened a battery messing around with settings and trying different things... so in the end i did reformat the camera. funnily enough a gavin hoey video on dual card slots from 6 years ago popped up in my youtube feed in the first couple of listings that night. I didn't search for it on youtube but i did google dual card slots, i presume there's some "information sharing" going on in windows. 

Complicated doesn't begin to cover it lol. So far i have assigned the card slot, set up peaking and magnify for both photos and video. I initially set peaking up for video, switched to photos and wondered what happened to the peaking. I "wrongly" thought it would carry over.  Seems like, olympus gives you lots of options. I'm going to experiment with it as it is now and move on from there.  

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18 hours ago, maxJ4380 said:

Seems like, olympus gives you lots of options.

Yes, probably more than you really need - and sometimes several ways of doing the same thing (but annoyingly there are a few things that would be really useful to assign to a camera function button but you can't...).

18 hours ago, maxJ4380 said:

I initially set peaking up for video, switched to photos and wondered what happened to the peaking. I "wrongly" thought it would carry over.

Photo and Movie modes are (mostly) separate worlds, including the function button settings.

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Yes i'm learning that. 

One of the next things i'd like to do is get a uhs type 2 card. I either hunt one down from a camera shop which entails a bit of a drive and a store mark up or i get one online. I have heard some horror stories about buying cards from ebay, so i'm loathe to go the route of cards off ebay. Not so sure about amazon however. Anyone have issues from buying uhs cards from amazon ? 

My comp has usb ports marked SS not sure what that equates too. Theres also a type c on the front and one type c on the back. From my online searches it seems best to use a type c port and run a uhs adapter to the c port for optimum performance. which sounds logical / reasonable. So a type 2 adapter is also on the list. I have less issues about a card reader from ebay.

Also its been raining the last few days, so nothing productive from that side of things yet. I did however acquire a couple more rocks, first is under room light. second with uv light.  uv light in one hand camera in other hand, not exactly ideal   The frog is cnc machined and cost a lousy $6. Absolutely crazy what can be done these days. Some Brazilian stone from memory.

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4 minutes ago, maxJ4380 said:

My comp has usb ports marked SS not sure what that equates too.

It means 'SuperSpeed' i.e. USB3 at 5 or 10 Gbit/s (the plastic parts of the connectors are also often colored blue). For reference 'High Speed' USB is 480 Mbit/s and 'Full Speed' USB is 12 Mbit/s.

Note that while some USB-C connectors and cables support 'SuperSpeed', not all do (cheap cables in particular often don't support more than 480 Mbit/s). The 'SuperSpeed' connection uses separate wires in the cable, and it's cheaper to leave them out. So if buying a cable, check carefully that it supports SuperSpeed (5 or 10 Gbit/s) data rates if you need them. In my experience, most PC/Laptop USB-C ports are SuperSpeed-capable but peripheral devices to plug into them are a complete mixture of speed capability.

19 minutes ago, maxJ4380 said:

Anyone have issues from buying uhs cards from amazon ? 

Personally, no, but I almost always buy Sandisk or Samsung, and always 'sold by Amazon' i.e. not from marketplace sellers. I've never needed to buy a UHS-2 card, so no advice on that.

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Yes, as ac6000cw said, a reputable brand from Amazon (or B&H or Adorama or any other decent-size online seller) should be fine - ideally sold by Amazon (since the "marketplace" sellers sometimes have differing policies from the main company).  

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