sandro Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I use the Panasonic S5, however I'm looking for something smaller without compromising the quality. Sure full-frame is not necessary at all. Zero importance for still, this is for video only. My requirements are: - the smaller the better, must be portable - I can shoot at 4k 50p/60p without a sensor crop - it comes with a kit lens with a reasonable zoom range, I'm open to non interchangeable lenses, feels weird not being able to swap lenses though... - HLG 2100/HDR support - decent low light performance - optional: something that looks less of a camera and more a smartphone so I don't get stares in public (I shoot in urban areas) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 I forgot: - great stabilization! Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Osmo Pocket 3. IronFilm and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 7 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said: Osmo Pocket 3. This. Or a phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 56 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said: Osmo Pocket 3. Funny thing is that I own that already 😄 My issue with that is the fixed zoom 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 Maybe we can go less pocket than that 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 The S5 isn't a very big camera. To get smaller in some meaningful way and if the S9 won't be enough, your best bet is probably either from Fuji or Sony - that or check the existing thread here about the smallest ILC that can shoot 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 15 hours ago, sandro said: Funny thing is that I own that already 😄 My issue with that is the fixed zoom 😞 I am at the same side of you... Hence this route here ; ) direct link to YT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 This is another one we simply cannot ignore: 15 hours ago, sandro said: Maybe we can go less pocket than that 😄 Really? Because as the title of this thread hints ; ) the best cam is always the one we have with us : P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 18 hours ago, sandro said: I can shoot at 4k 50p/60p without a sensor crop I think the (APS-C) Fuji X-S20 is one of the smallest MILCs that can shoot 4k 50p/60p, but with a 1.18x crop (on the left, fitted with the small 15-45mm power-zoom kit lens, S5 on the right): MrSMW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 If you can live without 4k 50p/60p, the fixed-lens Sony ZV-1 is tiny but only goes up to 4k 30p max and the battery life is terrible (I use one as my 'pocket' video & stills camera): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 4k50p is too much for pocket zoom camera as they will literally explode 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 12 hours ago, Emanuel said: I am at the same side of you... Hence this route here ; ) direct link to YT Seems promising but you have to take the sensor size into consideration. And it gets worse on telephoto lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 5 hours ago, sandro said: Seems promising but you have to take the sensor size into consideration. And it gets worse on telephoto lens. Right : ) Alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 For that size? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, sandro said: For that size? No. I meant, that's the only alternative you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Panasonic FZ2500?? (or the even older Panasonic FZ1000) https://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/compacts/panasonic_dmcfz2500 Or the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX10/LX15 or similar?? Panasonic GX850/GX800?? As all of these share Panasonic DNA it might be also easier to in a pinch have them act as a C Cam to your Panasonic S5 if you wish. sandro and John Matthews 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 23 Administrators Share Posted September 23 Fuji X-S2 or Sigma Fp-L For the most cinematic results. If you go even smaller, you have to make some compromises and go with a high-end compact camera... If you're doing that, it might be better to go with a high-end smartphone instead as the iPhone 15 Pro has an incredible codec now, and really good auxiliary lenses especially the 5x zoom. sandro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 What changed for video on the iPhone 16 Pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 25 Administrators Share Posted September 25 4K/120fps but not much overall I don't think, the iPhone 15 Pro is better value now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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