chris_wagenaar Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I was searching for a Cine lens for my Canon 700D (T5i). But I found that the Canon ones are a little bit to expensive for me.. So I found some Cine lenses from Samyang (Rokinon). Samyang has a lot of the same looking lenses but there are the two versions I liked but where I almost can't find some differences: - Samyang 85mm T1.5 VDSLR AS IF UMC and the - Samyang 85mm T1.5 VDSLR AS IF UMC II Does somebody know the difference between these two? The second one seems to be a newer version but is also more expensive.. The only difference I can find are some little changes in design.. Does somebody have one of these lenses and knows the difference in image quality? Are these lenses also usable for crop sensor body's? I know there are made for full frame but I was wondering what the results were on a crop sensor. I already have the Sigma 18-35 F/1.8, Tokina 11-16 F/2.8, Canon 50mm F/1.8 and some cheap zoom lenses and I hope that the Samyang Cine Lens give me that extra Cine-look that I'm looking for. Hope somebody can help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 They won't give you any additional "cine-look" , these are stills lenses with cine-gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Short answer. Yeah they are worth the money. I mix in the Sigma 18-35 with Rokinon/Samyang 85 & 50. I'm not sold on their wideangle lenses though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Can you define the ''cine look'' you want so we can suggest a lens? The 85mm is very sharp yes if that's what you mean and has a beautiful background blur, a lovely aesthetic. Look at photography-oriented reviews of the lenses (their stills versions) to get an idea how the lenses perform in terms of image quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I believe they're worth it, I blogged my reasoning in getting Rokinon Cine DS in Nikon F mount here:http://ironfilm.co.nz/rokinon-cine-lenses/ I assume the v2 Samyangs are the same as the new Rokinon Cine DS series but with Samyang branding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amro Othman Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I have the 85mm Samyang and it's almost as good as the Zeiss 85mm F1.4. The latter is more than double the price however so stick with the Samyang!I've also heard that their newer 135mm is awesome and even better optically than the Canon 135mm L lens and that's saying a lot. Don't bother with the 24mm but the 35, 85, and 135mm are all great lenses for stills or video IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Noam Kroll has a pretty good review of these lenses on his site. http://noamkroll.com/extensive-rokinon-cinema-lens-kit-review-the-4-lenses-you-need-to-shoot-your-feature-film/They're cheap, handle well, and offer good images. A nice option for those on a budget. Do they produce a more "cinematic" image than other stills lenses? Not really. They may be in cinema housings, but they're still very contrasty and breathe like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.f.r. Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 The main problem with Rokinon lenses is they are inconsistent from lens to lens. One might be great, the other okay and then another totally horrible. The inconsistency is very bad and something you definitely need to be careful with. For $200 you can pick up a used Rokinon 85mm lens and enjoy it's great focal length and colors, my problem with the brand though is it's always a toss up and you never know. Also these lenses suffer from purple fringing and onion bokeh which is something you truly notice one you work with much better glass. On the cheap they are good and better than most kit lenses, are they better lenses.... Most definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Do the Nikon-mount "Cine" versions of these lenses still focus backwards (i.e. how Nikon lenses focus)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I've also heard that their newer 135mm is awesome and even better optically than the Canon 135mm L lens and that's saying a lot. Really? I'd order one, right now. Is this true? anyone can confirm it? I always followed Samyang lenses but this one is new so haven't seen a lot. The Canon 135mm f/2 L is simply the single sharpest lenses I have ever used during my entire career, It's not popular or used widely for some reason, perhaps when I try the Outs it will take that crown. The images this lens produces and the rendition of the out of focus areas gives it a heavenly aesthetic not seen in any other lens I used including Canon's L lenses like the 70-200mm f/2.8 at 135mm. It's definitely a medium format look, how the subjects show tack sharp veins & eyelashes while the background goes to total softness gradually, and it maintains that sharpness & contrast & colour up to f/2. It's a lens to shoot wide open, stopping it down is a crime I thought! I have always been lusting over one to use for closeups and up the production value but couldn't justify the cost of the L especially since I don't need AF or the Red ring. Now this dirt cheap Samyang gives these images? I would be very surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_wagenaar Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 The main problem with Rokinon lenses is they are inconsistent from lens to lens. One might be great, the other okay and then another totally horrible. The inconsistency is very bad and something you definitely need to be careful with. For $200 you can pick up a used Rokinon 85mm lens and enjoy it's great focal length and colors, my problem with the brand though is it's always a toss up and you never know. Also these lenses suffer from purple fringing and onion bokeh which is something you truly notice one you work with much better glass. On the cheap they are good and better than most kit lenses, are they better lenses.... Most definitely.Okay..So lets throw the $200/300 budget away.. So if I had $1000, what prime/cine lens would you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amro Othman Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Really? I'd order one, right now. Is this true? anyone can confirm it? I always followed Samyang lenses but this one is new so haven't seen a lot. The Canon 135mm f/2 L is simply the single sharpest lenses I have ever used during my entire career, It's not popular or used widely for some reason, perhaps when I try the Outs it will take that crown. The images this lens produces and the rendition of the out of focus areas gives it a heavenly aesthetic not seen in any other lens I used including Canon's L lenses like the 70-200mm f/2.8 at 135mm. It's definitely a medium format look, how the subjects show tack sharp veins & eyelashes while the background goes to total softness gradually, and it maintains that sharpness & contrast & colour up to f/2. It's a lens to shoot wide open, stopping it down is a crime I thought! I have always been lusting over one to use for closeups and up the production value but couldn't justify the cost of the L especially since I don't need AF or the Red ring. Now this dirt cheap Samyang gives these images? I would be very surprised. Salams Ebrahim, Ramadan Mubarak This is just one review, but there are others where people are saying similair things comparing it to the Canon:http://dustinabbott.net/2015/03/samyang-135mm-f2-ed-umc-review/I will probably pick up this lens at some point, since I always wanted the Canon 135mm L... and don't really need the autofocus anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.f.r. Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Okay..So lets throw the $200/300 budget away.. So if I had $1000, what prime/cine lens would you suggest?Canon 70-200mm 2.8 IS II USM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Okay..So lets throw the $200/300 budget away.. So if I had $1000, what prime/cine lens would you suggest?Carl Ziess ZF.2 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I use mostly the 24mm Samyang f1.4 lens (theres a "cine" version as well) and its my go-to lens, I love it and its my def. go to lens. You can easily make a 600D shot look like a Full Frame 5D shot, the bokeh is soft and looks high end, the sharpness is incredible, just an overall great lens. But as it was mentioned, some can be amazing and others not so good, try second hand market, I bought mine used and its amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidp158 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Can anyone confirm if the Samyang VDSLR II lenses are identical to the Rokinon DS lenses? The Samyang tend to sell for less than the Rokinons, and I've seen some speculation that the Rokinon lenses may pass a higher quality control level. FWIW, I have the 24, 35, 50 and 85mm Rokinon DS lenses, and for the price I am quite pleased with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantsin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Rokinon is just the most common American brand name for Samyang lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yeah, the latest Samyang series is the same as the latest Rokinon series. Just different branding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I have the 85 in ef mount and really like it. Thinking of getting the full set but can’t choose between these and a set of Veydra’s. Shooting mainly on Sony and looking to play with some Fuji gear soon. You can use an adaptor on the Veydra e-mount to Fuji X. Can also switch them to m4/3 as well by changing out e-mount and putting in the m4/3 (3 screws) The Samyang are cheaper and versatile across cameras (and cover full frame). Veydra better quality, some what versatile, but don’t cover full frame. Please help me choose as its doing my head in! And thanks heaps @IronFilm. I have spent most of today checking out ZF.2’s as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I've used the 35,50 and 85 and have found them all to give a ugly image. - Would not recommend. Sold them for the sigma zooms. Nikkor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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