Vimeo, End of an Era

[Davide DB]

Just got this email:

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Hi,

We wanted to let you know that on 09/12/24, the price of your plan will increase to 90,00€ billed annually, (plus applicable taxes). And today, we’re announcing that we're removing weekly upload limits, to give you unlimited access to 250 GB of total storage.

This is the first price increase for Vimeo in over 10 years and reflects our ongoing investment in improving your experience.

You can manage or cancel your plan in your Billing Settings or by contacting Customer Support through our Help Center.

Thank you for being a Vimeo customer,


The Vimeo Team"

 

 

Given that I have been using a plus account for over 13 years... WHAT IF I already uploaded more than 250GB?

Until now I had unlimited space and a 5GB weekly limit. ATM I have no tool to check it.

 

8 hours ago, MrSMW said:

What are the alternatives?

 

YouTube let youo pload a unlisted video so you could share to a client but there's no way to download the original version. You can download only a crap 720p downsized version.

Other alternatives could be Frame.Io or https://www.gumlet.com/pricing/

Frame.io it's very expensive and doesn't support embedding

[Andrew Reid]

And people wonder why there's not more competition to YouTube, it's because of mismanagement like that seen at Vimeo.

They had the chance to become the thinking man's YouTube but blew it, to become a failing business service for videography clients and pros. The price increase reflects that too, that they preferred to focus on a tiny niche rather than the huge community they used to have.

At this point the mismanagement is so bad, you could even assume Google planted a covert CEO there just to absolutely make sure it would never become a valid competitor.

And today I don't think it matters that much as YouTube provides a much better platform, and the Vimeo community has been dead for well over 6 years now.

[octoplex]

51 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

At this point the mismanagement is so bad, you could even assume Google planted a covert CEO there just to absolutely make sure it would never become a valid competitor.

Having been part of this industry, with insider-knowledge on the tactics these people use, I can tell you that this is EXACTLY the kind of thing that happens.

It's impossible to prove this level of malfeasance, and this is the reason why it is so effective. Remember that Google is a well-evidenced CIA-project. Google's objective online is 'intelligence'-harvesting  and psychological-manipulation for power and profit.

As you have noted, anything that competes with the CIA (Google)'s ability to gather information, censor voices, and manipulate public-opinion,  becomes a target for infiltration. Vimeo was a serious-threat to power because it offered an independent, community-run information stream.

It is the purpose of Google / the CIA to destroy human-community, where it discovers it, and to replace natural-conversation with top-down programming. Existing power-systems do not like the free-flow of information because it exposes their crimes.

Freedom of speech is the antithesis of evil; therefore evil despises it at every turn.

As Google's founders, the CIA, famously said:

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)

 

[92F]

This smells like the nauseating odor of fake news...it is unacceptable here.

[Andrew Reid]

A bit of social networking and Google as one of the big 3 tech giants can have a high influence over appointees at all sorts of smaller companies.

I'm not suggesting it's true in the case of Vimeo, we simply don't know, but it can't be completely ruled out either.

It just seems very suspicious that the moment they became clear no.2 competition for YouTube, someone came in and took them in a completely different direction.

And for very little rewards.

[Davide DB]

14 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

It just seems very suspicious that the moment they became clear no.2 competition for YouTube, someone came in and took them in a completely different direction.

Just read carefully this article:

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/independent-ends.html

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After relaunching GIANT FREAKIN ROBOT in 2019, the site grew to a readership of more than 20 million a month, through 2021 and 2022. Then Google decided they didn’t want independent publishers around anymore. Most entertainment keywords have now been given to one big company, whose numerous sites own the top slots for nearly every entertainment-related query of any substance.

No one can find our site to read it so that 20 million unique visitors is now a few thousand a month. Nearly every independently owned entertainment news publisher is in the same situation, in one way or another.

.......

GIANT FREAKIN ROBOT isn’t the first site to shut down. Hundreds of independent publishers have shuttered in the last two years, and thousands more are on the way. I’m in communication with dozens of other independents focused on different topics. None of them are doing well. They all expect to be out of business soon.

I went to Google directly, on their behalf, and told them about the problem. The message I walked away with, was that they do not care. Our industry is done.

Future entertainment news and opinion will come from AI recaps scraped and stolen from our archived content or from the big media companies backed by hedge funds that Google has chosen as its designated survivors.

 

 

[92F]

Yes and thank you for the article...👍

But between an inevitable drift of capitalism (which needs to be a little regulated, in particular against any monopoly like anti-trust law) and a stinking conspiratorial attitude affirming that it is the CIA, the aliens who would be behind all this ... "yes, yes it is well known" is a little pathetic.

There are political influences everywhere, but it must be proven 

" It is the purpose of Google / the CIA to destroy human-community " 🤪

"Vimeo was a serious-threat to power because it offered an independent, community-run information stream.

 

The Internet is a trash can to stir up shit ....so the less we do it on anything the more we are sure that it will go down to the bottom.

Have a good day 😉

[MrSMW]

So reading between the lines, YouTube/Google smashed Vimeo and the operators of YouTube/Google are the CIA who as everyone knows, are funded by aliens?

If so, that's cleared that one up.

What about TikTok?

Who is responsible for that shite?

[hojomo]

8 hours ago, MrSMW said:

So reading between the lines, YouTube/Google smashed Vimeo and the operators of YouTube/Google are the CIA who as everyone knows, are funded by aliens?

If so, that's cleared that one up.

What about TikTok?

Who is responsible for that shite?

The preposterous opinion to me is thinking that the intelligent services of all major states ARE NOT heavily shaping the internet landscape to control the flow & content of information people use to form their worldviews.

Western 'liberal democracies' are full of folks who can (correctly) attribute these tactics to autocratic regimes; and then show themselves as total suckers when evaluating their own countries and systems.

The reality is that US intelligence services have had a stranglehold on media & communications post-WWII -- in as many countries as they have been able to arrange it. That has extended into the internet era and the operations of myriad companies like Comcast, Google, Meta, Microsoft, Palantir etc. Tech and media companies are interested in advancing the priorities of empire and capital. A robust, diverse internet with decentralized, truly independent voices competing for attention of the minds of the populations is in conflict with that.

But yeah TikTok; China is in the same game. This is what states do. Incidentally, Trump may himself arrange a transfer of ownership of TikTok -- on favorable terms one of his donors Jeff Yass (who has a major financial stake in them). A Trump America with TikTok owned by China is not happening for much longer I'd wager.

[92F]

The secret services are to protect us above all, like a doctor ... but there are some  Dr Mengele 😒

Yes, evil is everywhere, OK . But maybe it starts at home... maybe?😉

(complicated to make yourself understood, so in English it's worse, excuse me)

Have à good day 🥰

[PannySVHS]

There is no search function anymore! Can you believe it. No more searching for Bmmcc videos or 1.5 anamorphic on a Lumix!

No more browsing groups neither as they have been deleted too!

Oh, if you cancel your plus account they also delete all of your videos which you uploaded under the plus tarrif.

These tech companies lure us in and take our money and then they can just kill it off.

So upset that I gave them my money again despite the price raise. Vimeo is worthless now for a filmmaking community and filmmakers.

 

[Clark Nikolai]

2 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

These tech companies lure us in and take our money and then they can just kill it off.

 

Yep. So many good things are now just useless. It's almost like it was planned all along.  Or it might have started with good intentions but then shareholders or agent provocateurs from competitors get on the board and make it less useful.

I remember this video art piece that was aired on broadcast TV. They bought air time to show it. We (the viewers) are the product and sold to the advertisers. The content is just a way to bring in the products.

 

[Clark Nikolai]

13 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

There is no search function anymore! Can you believe it. No more searching for Bmmcc videos or 1.5 anamorphic on a Lumix!

No more browsing groups neither as they have been deleted too!

 

 

They're still there but hidden behind the "Watch" menu item. No longer obvious by, for example, someone who doesn't know the site. It looks like the main page of a company and you have to sign up to do anything. For someone just wanting to watch some videos it looks from the main page like it's not a site for that.

[PannySVHS]

Wtf!

Not only that you cannot search for videos anymore, they also killed browsing other accounts.You cannot browse through other peoples videos anymore! If you click on someones user account, nothing happens.

So nobody can find my videos nor browse through my uploaded videos. What did I just pay 70 EUR for again, on a side note? Total rip off and theft.

Oh yeah, they deleted groups and collections too. No love for film, no respect for people. They just disfunctioned an entire community with a blink of an eye, without any warning.

That's like a warning about other tech companies into which we put our trust, faith and fate. That means for the internet of things, if someone pulls the plug, no sandwiches for you tonight or any night, buddy.

[John Matthews]

7 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

Wtf!

Not only that you cannot search for videos anymore, they also killed browsing other accounts.You cannot browse through other peoples videos anymore! If you click on someones user account, nothing happens.

So nobody can find my videos nor browse through my uploaded videos. What did I just pay 70 EUR for again, on a side note? Total rip off and theft.

Oh yeah, they deleted groups and collections too. No love for film, no respect for people. They just disfunctioned an entire community with a blink of an eye, without any warning.

That's like a warning about other tech companies into which we put our trust, faith and fate. That means for the internet of things, if someone pulls the plug, no sandwiches for you tonight or any night, buddy.

Sounds to me like they put a young-up-and-coming in charge of product. Less is more, right?

[Marcio Kabke Pinheiro]

18 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

Wtf!

Not only that you cannot search for videos anymore, they also killed browsing other accounts.You cannot browse through other peoples videos anymore! If you click on someones user account, nothing happens.

So nobody can find my videos nor browse through my uploaded videos. What did I just pay 70 EUR for again, on a side note? Total rip off and theft.

Oh yeah, they deleted groups and collections too. No love for film, no respect for people. They just disfunctioned an entire community with a blink of an eye, without any warning.

That's like a warning about other tech companies into which we put our trust, faith and fate. That means for the internet of things, if someone pulls the plug, no sandwiches for you tonight or any night, buddy.

And a warning to remember to have a personal copy of any video uploaded to any plataform.

If it dies, the footage dies together.

[MrSMW]

3 minutes ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

And a warning to remember to have a personal copy of any video uploaded to any plataform.

If it dies, the footage dies together.

My plan for 2025 is to add a second copy to YouTube because I can link to that from my website if Vimeo was to cease to exist.

I'd still need to re-upload anything I wanted to use from prior to the 1st Jan this year though and that is dozens of videos.

I actually have around 700+ but the vast majority I couldn't care less about now and some are over 15 years old!

But the last couple of years work that I'd still want the world to see would amount to 50+ pieces, so 50 overnight uploads based on my rural location.

Hopefully it won't come to that and I really only used Vimeo as an on-line storage/host to link my own website to...

[Clark Nikolai]

6 minutes ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

And a warning to remember to have a personal copy of any video uploaded to any plataform.

If it dies, the footage dies together.

Remember when people said things like "Oh, it'll be safe in the cloud", and "The Internet never forgets"?  All it takes is for a company to go under or be bought out and folded for your files to be gone. We all need to have our own copies of our things on our own drives. Have another copy (for when the drive fails) and ideally in another building (in case of fire).

I remember in the 1990s dreaming of having access to a film scanner so I could scan all my negatives to digital files, now I dream of having access to a film recorder so I can put my digital pictures on to real film.

[Marcio Kabke Pinheiro]

3 hours ago, Clark Nikolai said:

Remember when people said things like "Oh, it'll be safe in the cloud", and "The Internet never forgets"?  All it takes is for a company to go under or be bought out and folded for your files to be gone. We all need to have our own copies of our things on our own drives. Have another copy (for when the drive fails) and ideally in another building (in case of fire).

I remember in the 1990s dreaming of having access to a film scanner so I could scan all my negatives to digital files, now I dream of having access to a film recorder so I can put my digital pictures on to real film.

Yep - all my media files are in a internal hard drive, and external hard drive, and in a cloud backup. Not impossible that all the three copies becomes destroyed in the same day, but unlikely.

[Clark Nikolai]

5 minutes ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

 Not impossible that all the three copies becomes destroyed in the same day, but unlikely.

I've seen it though. I was working on a TV show and was about to delete my copy of the footage as I was finished with that episode and got a call from the producer. Both his copies of the footage went poof! The main copy and the backup copy drives both got corrupted somehow. He freaked out but fortunately I and the editor had copies of the footage.