Camera advice. What after a EOS R? (and a RicohGR)

[tomastancredi]

Hey Guys, I know you love some camera discussion!  I feel it would be nice to replace my EOS R. It served me well as an OK stills camera for eventual architecture photography and some portraits and it was also ok for video work. I also have a Ricoh GRI that I use as an EDC that has kind of broke now, so covering this would be a plus even if with some pocket ability compromise. I am not usually doing very serious jobs very often, so I can rent whenever necessary. reason for changing is that for photos I am mostly using my phone (previously Ricoh) and for video when its not a personal project I rent. So my EOS R is no longer being used that often. I would prefer having a camera that is very good for photos since my video work is mostly paid and I can rent. 

So my wishes for a new camera would be.

1) Can become a pocketable EVC for street photography  ( I loved to use and own a gx85 with 20mm and Ricoh)

2) Highest IQ possible (colour 3d pop and resolution). I don't need it to be fast and I don't care if the AF is not crazy fast. ( I am not sure if xm-5 would be an upgrade, probably not
3) best quality possible. Although I guess at this point anything new will be good enough. 422 10 bit internal though seem nice. 

I  considered getting the xm-5 and a used GFX 50R, or just xm-5 with good glass or just A7C, or s5II and shoot stills with a portable film camera

 

Let me know if you have any other advices!

Thanks!
 

[eatstoomuchjam]

Why not just get a used EOS R5 and keep using whatever lenses you already own?  45 megapixel stills and decent video, as long as you're not rolling super long takes.  Pair it with some of the plastic Canon RF consumer lenses and you'll have something that's just about as pocketable as many other cameras.  You can find them used for right around $2k now too.

[tomastancredi]

On 11/13/2024 at 5:54 PM, eatstoomuchjam said:

EOS R5

I would like to something smaller and at least 10 bitt 422. 

I checked the xm-5 on a store and didnt like its ergo for one hand operation, in a strange way it didnt feel as good as a gx85 or a ricoh gr. Im thinking that the S5 for 600 is the way to go for all the rest  and for pocketable stills just waiting for a cheap xe-4, film cameras, ricoh grII (it never gets cheap) or even go back to gx85+20mm.

[eatstoomuchjam]

FWIW, the S5 and R5 are nearly identical in size and while the R5 is 10-bit 4:2:0 in H.265 mode, it also shoots raw internally - and unless you're doing special effects work, you won't miss it - that or just record in 8K and when you downsize it to 4K, you'll have all the luma/chroma info that you need anyway.

Regardless, sounds like you chose the S5. It's a great camera and I'm sure you'll enjoy it!  Happy shooting!

[Ty Harper]

Mmm, maybe the Fujifilm XT-4 or 5 or X100 XI, or the Panasonic S9? 

[MrSMW]

The pocketable part is the trickiest bit...

Best of luck getting an S5 or R5 or anything of that nature in your pocket. Unless you are Matt Granger.

S9 springs to mind and maybe with that new 18-40?

Even then, still need a decent sized pocket!

I've been guilty of it myself and that is chasing a 'grail' solution that does not exist and you probably are better off with that S5 + GX85 combo?

[tomastancredi]

7 hours ago, Ty Harper said:

Fujifilm XT-4 or 5

I thought about it. mainly for the small lenses. But the camera itself its the size of any full frame and the I dont think its better than the S5 for stills, right? 
 

 

2 hours ago, MrSMW said:

he pocketable part is the trickiest bit...

indeed. I think trully pocketable for everyday only the ricoh GR. and fuji x70/10

Gx85+20, XE4 or Xm-5 +27mm are jacket pocketable and perfect for when you know you will be photographring. 

 

Still, would be nice thinking of other small Combos available which give the benefit of a much higher IQ, even with some compromise. The S9 would be amazing if there was only one small 1.4-8 lens. not sure If it could be only one with the electronic shutter though. 

 

Crazy to think that the gx85 would be the best choice after 10 years. the 27mm 2.8 on the xe-4 or xm5 seem to be a big bigger with the protruding lens cap.