Clark Nikolai Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM On 11/19/2024 at 2:05 AM, Ilkka Nissila said: From a European point of view, I would say that on economic policies the US Democrats are center-right, From a Canadian perspective as well. The US Democratic Party would be considered centre-right in Canada. Having said that even Canadian politics is more right than it used to be, much like the world. This was predicted by historians. When resources run out, people start fighting over their differences (which previously would have been ignored) then political opportunists see this and use it to gain power. eatstoomuchjam and Andrew Reid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted yesterday at 04:50 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:50 PM 3 hours ago, Snowfun said: Isn’t that precisely the problem? What we “believe” to be true isn’t enough. We should endeavour to listen to the evidence so we know what is true. (And, yes, we can argue about the evidence and its significance but that is all part of the epistemological process - it doesn’t diminish the difference between what is true and what is not. Irrespective of what I, or anyone else, might believe). Exactly - we are programmed to to believe what we believe for the benefits of the powers that be. We are programed/incented to take sides so that the rich get richer. We all have confirmation bias and confirm what we are programmed to confirm. Trump, Biden, Harris, Obama, Bush, the Clintons all play for the same team. That's what they all laughed when Trump said I ran into Hillary and she said pardon me - they are not putting each other in jail - they know the joke is on the common person. We need to get to the montage scene in our own personal movies where we realize what is closer to the true: Programming equals profit for the powers that be and we are all programmed and pitted against each other and we actually have more in common than we are programmed to believe. Jules in Pulp Fiction had his realization. I wish all of our personal story arcs would include a realization about how we are all programmed to some degree or another... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 3 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, majoraxis said: We are programed/incented to take sides so that the rich get richer. We can deprogram ourselves very easily, just by using character and ethics as a guide in politics. Trump and his inner circle are unsavoury, unintelligent and many of them are convicted felons. BUT - apparently this resonates with the American public which I'm sorry to say is just fucking embarrassing for your nation - it shows to the rest of the world that quality of character, being a public servant, and ethical behaviour is of no interest to over half of your population and that you'd willingly vote for crooks if you think it's good for the economy. I have news for you, it won't be good for the economy. It'll be good for the 1% and the rest of you will be enjoying inflation in the region of 15% before too long. The media in the US is appalling, it is the most biased in the world, be it CNN or Fox, they're both completely incapable of taking a balanced objective view of politics. In the UK, the BBC has withered away, corrupted by the Tory party and hamstrung by the abuse of the BBC's impartiality rule. So we are in a bad situation here as well, and when you add Murdoch to the scene and his shitty tabloids which have somehow managed to cling onto relevance in the so-called enlightened age of the internet, it's no wonder people are distracted by all the arguing and less able to focus on quality of character and policy. Too many aggressive interviewers whose only aim is to pick holes in everything, whether it's a good politician or not, or a good policy or not... nobody is immune to the constant shit stirring of the media. It's not even real journalism a lot of it, and it brings the country down. It sometimes gets so depressing to see, that you start to think about emigrating to Russia to enjoy the more 'favourable' and 'patriotic' media 🙂 Yet in the end, what I am saying is... You don't need the media. The truth is out there for all to see about what kind of characters and ethics are on display with Trump and his inner circle. We need better journalism, yes... But you can make up your own mind whether it's sensible to have a convicted crook as the leader of the free world. There has to be a move away from the two main parties also - as they're both becoming corrupted in some form or another. The Democrats by vanity career politics and drab humourless political correctness, and the Republicans by a complete loss of sanity. eatstoomuchjam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 3 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 3 hours ago By the way, the world needs a strong United States. Because the alternatives to our way of life are far worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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